Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl?

'The Girl in Question'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Jun 11, 2008 2:24:32 pm PDT #2604 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's cooled off some (84), but the humidity has dipped, probably into the 20s. It's so mellow out here that I'm ready to move a cot out and sleep. If only the skunks didn't regularly trundle through the yard in the wee hours....


Steph L. - Jun 11, 2008 2:24:49 pm PDT #2605 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Bugs in drag = aces.

With my spear and magic helmet!


Tom Scola - Jun 11, 2008 2:53:43 pm PDT #2606 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Spear and magic helmet?


Steph L. - Jun 11, 2008 2:56:32 pm PDT #2607 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yes, spear and magic helmet!

And I'll give you a sample....


Dana - Jun 11, 2008 2:57:00 pm PDT #2608 of 10003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yes, magic helmet! And I'll give you a sample!

Edit: Man, pwned by YouTube.


Dana - Jun 11, 2008 3:00:27 pm PDT #2609 of 10003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

t tantrum

Where is my HUSBAND we have to leave in TWENTY MINUTES for EDDIE IZZARD and I guess we're skipping DINNER GET HOME NOW

t /tantrum


erikaj - Jun 11, 2008 3:05:44 pm PDT #2610 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

From way back..."handicapped" is kind of insulting. Or at least an unpleasant callback to, like, feudal gimp history, when "we" were legally allowed to beg, cap in hand. For myself, I generally say "wheelchair user," or "mobility-impaired" cognitively disabled (except with my brother...if he does something stupid, I take retarded out of mothballs, cause we got it like that.) And he's not. I wanted to like differently abled, but in the end, it's like...silly. or humorously challenged.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2008 3:07:58 pm PDT #2611 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

an unpleasant callback to, like, feudal gimp history, when "we" were legally allowed to beg, cap in hand

o.O

I had no idea of that etymology. It stings, huh? I mean, it's real to you?


javachik - Jun 11, 2008 3:12:30 pm PDT #2612 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

I don't even like "wheelchair user". Whenever I describe someone dependent on a chair to get around, I say "s/he uses a wheelchair." Small difference, but for some reason, it's really important to me to identify the person first and the tool second.


erikaj - Jun 11, 2008 3:14:02 pm PDT #2613 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't know how much it stings, viscerally, for me. Because mostly I hear it now from older people who probably aren't ever going to buy into the whole independent-living thing in the first place. As a kid, I was probably tortured with it, but that is not a terminology thing. I just wanted to point out why disabled people in my generation don't really use it.