Jayne: Captain, can you stop her from bein' cheerful, please? Mal: I don't believe there is a power in the 'verse that can stop Kaylee from being cheerful. Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.

'Serenity'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Jun 11, 2008 3:00:27 pm PDT #2609 of 10003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

t tantrum

Where is my HUSBAND we have to leave in TWENTY MINUTES for EDDIE IZZARD and I guess we're skipping DINNER GET HOME NOW

t /tantrum


erikaj - Jun 11, 2008 3:05:44 pm PDT #2610 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

From way back..."handicapped" is kind of insulting. Or at least an unpleasant callback to, like, feudal gimp history, when "we" were legally allowed to beg, cap in hand. For myself, I generally say "wheelchair user," or "mobility-impaired" cognitively disabled (except with my brother...if he does something stupid, I take retarded out of mothballs, cause we got it like that.) And he's not. I wanted to like differently abled, but in the end, it's like...silly. or humorously challenged.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2008 3:07:58 pm PDT #2611 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

an unpleasant callback to, like, feudal gimp history, when "we" were legally allowed to beg, cap in hand

o.O

I had no idea of that etymology. It stings, huh? I mean, it's real to you?


javachik - Jun 11, 2008 3:12:30 pm PDT #2612 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

I don't even like "wheelchair user". Whenever I describe someone dependent on a chair to get around, I say "s/he uses a wheelchair." Small difference, but for some reason, it's really important to me to identify the person first and the tool second.


erikaj - Jun 11, 2008 3:14:02 pm PDT #2613 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't know how much it stings, viscerally, for me. Because mostly I hear it now from older people who probably aren't ever going to buy into the whole independent-living thing in the first place. As a kid, I was probably tortured with it, but that is not a terminology thing. I just wanted to point out why disabled people in my generation don't really use it.


Hil R. - Jun 11, 2008 4:14:24 pm PDT #2614 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Fox News refers to Michelle Obama as "Obama's Baby Mama." [link]


amych - Jun 11, 2008 4:19:49 pm PDT #2615 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Even though the hand-in-cap etymology is from betting on fixed horseraces, not begging?

Anyway, I totally grok that associations go "ouch" regardless of etymology (and for that matter, etymology as an explanation for anything is usually crap, but that's a whole other rant). I'm javachik in choice of "uses a wheelchair" but do smack me down whenever I'm being a clueless tool.


Jesse - Jun 11, 2008 5:11:22 pm PDT #2616 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm so glad you said this, Jesse. Otherwise I would've utterly forgot that this pay period's bills-that-still-must-be-mailed are sitting in my purse.

Happy to help!

I do love seeing my works-in-publishing friend. Free books!


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2008 5:14:08 pm PDT #2617 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm etymology's bitch. So while I understand it might sting it goes in the same box as "niggardly." It's just easier for me to tell mine own to get over it.

Bottom Line Personal has found me, and they tell me that if a teenager is gainfully employed and contributes the $4K max into a Roth IRA between 16 and 21, that's over $2m of tax free money at age 65.

Now *that* makes me feel old.

ER turned out to be better than nothing. It's only now I'm needing to turn to meds in hand to treat another one. Just have to make sure I say sensical.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 11, 2008 5:18:01 pm PDT #2618 of 10003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

New discovery from watching VH-1's I Love the 80s 3-D: Avery Brooks is perhaps the only man alive who can dress like the Joker and still look intimidating without benefit of clown makeup.