Does "choking" always imply "restricting breath"? 'Cuz that's always bad (or so I hear).

Erotic asphyxiation isn't my bag of tea, but it's not an unknown way to get off. Having someone else do it to you makes it less likely you go out like Michael Hutchence.

I think you can incorporate the fantasy of choking into your sex play without danger but for some folks it's the "seeing stars" they actually get off on and that is potentially deadly.

I read a post in a BDSM discussion by a Dr. who was also into BDSM - he said that there's absolutely no way to practice "breath control" on another person without a risk of death. He said that even a short period of restricting someone's breath would cause a risk of heart-attack or... something else bad.

His argument sounded reasonable to me, but I haven't read any more on the subject. I was under the impression that people into "breath control" are (eta: in recent years) less popular in the BDSM community because of this issue.

But I wanna be corrected if I'm wrong, 'kay?

eta: x-posty with Laga. Did it really take me five minutes to post the above?

Um, I dunno the technical medical stuff, but I do know a lot of people like holding their breath, or having their breath held for them, during sex..."breath play"...I've seen it done not during sex, just during BDSM play. But while the play I saw was done in a way that did allow the person whose breath was cut off to "tap out", I can't comment on how safe it was in a medical sense. Dunno. I wouldn't do it.

and it's not like breath play is the only way to kill yourself during sex. (says the girl who has performed oral sex on the driver of a moving vehicle)

Are they poisonous like everything else in Australia?

Well, one of them is called Viper... Interestingly, there are no vipers native to Australia.

I can't be the onluy person who immediately thought of 'dogs marking territory,' an I?

I actually went to a brown hyena place, whose anal glands can produce two different kinds of marks with different durations, allowing them to indicate both their territory and their day-to-day activities.

and it's not like breath play is the only way to kill yourself during sex. (says the girl who has performed oral sex on the driver of a moving vehicle)

Were you in the vehicle at the time? Because I think I know how to make it more dangerous.

There's supposed to be a physiological high to being choked out that is different from the fantasy of being choked. The dicey moment is, of course, when is time to stop. There's that thing with the lemon where too much makes your jaws clench, so if you have a lemon in your mouth it squirts citric acid into your system which revives you and gives you a chance to unhook yourself.

Don't ask me.

Not gonna try it.

says the girl who has performed oral sex on the driver of a moving vehicle

Perhaps a good time for a hand job, because at least you can tell for yourself when to stop.

Is it just me or does everyone have sex on the mind tonight (Bitches too, that is).

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I think I know how to make it more dangerous

well there was that time I figured out I could straddle him in the driver's seat of the GTI... then we realized we were on a toll road.