You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Toddson - Jul 30, 2008 9:47:06 am PDT #9287 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I think for many people, you do what is right for your own sense of self-worth. bonny, for the jerk in high school, it might have been that the teachers were pressured to pass him on for a variety of reasons.

And Joe's point about wanting to train people who might lead his own daughter is a good one. Acting as though your own loved ones would be directly affected is a good attitude.

On the bright side, a friend's nephew is a career Marine, and she once told me about how he was worried about being able to bring his men home safely, and what he could do to keep them as safe as possible in Iraq. He was less worried about his own safety than his men's.


Sean K - Jul 30, 2008 9:47:27 am PDT #9288 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

What DO you say to the anti-christ?

Well... whatever you say, try to avoid hyperbole.


beekaytee - Jul 30, 2008 9:50:32 am PDT #9289 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

He was less worried about his own safety than his men's.

There is a tremendous nobility in that. I wonder, have we ever had that in 'normal' society, or is it only born in military or 'noble' stratas of life? By noble, I mean both the actual 'high borns' of olde who were obliged by birth to look after others, and helping professions.


beekaytee - Jul 30, 2008 9:51:32 am PDT #9290 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Well... whatever you say, try to avoid hyperbole.

Good one.


vw bug - Jul 30, 2008 9:51:45 am PDT #9291 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I just found the required book, etc. list for my Jane Austen class for the fall. I CANNOT WAIT!!!


beekaytee - Jul 30, 2008 9:55:01 am PDT #9292 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Todd, you are absolutely right. There was terrible pressure, from what I understand, to pass that guy. But that seems even worse. His habits weren't secret, yet none of the teachers were willing to declare the emperor bare.

In a way their lack of integrity...and active discounting of my own (Don't cause trouble!)...was way more disillusioning than his.


Sean K - Jul 30, 2008 9:56:24 am PDT #9293 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well... whatever you say, try to avoid hyperbole.

Good one.

I mean, I'm no fan of the guy in any way, and I'm not sure I'd be able to say anything at all to him, were I given the chance. But we do ourselves no favors to fall prey to sloppy thinking, just because it's easier. That's exactly what we're talking about.

It's kinda like the Force....


beekaytee - Jul 30, 2008 9:57:15 am PDT #9294 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Ugh. I need a sad-nap now. Maybe I'll wake up less demoralized. Sorry for hijacking the discussion. It's just been very high in my mind lately.

eta:

But we do ourselves no favors to fall prey to sloppy thinking, just because it's easier.

Total agreement! Coming off as a raving lunatic advances the cause for morality and sane thinking not at all...but NOT saying something seems equally undesirable to me.


Scrappy - Jul 30, 2008 9:58:22 am PDT #9295 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Bonny, I would think it depends on whether his misdeeds were sonething under their purview. One of my brothers was totally a dick to girls in high school, and a huge pothead and got several DUIs--on the other hand, he was impeccable in academic terms. I don't think they could have done anything for behavior he engaged in off school property.

He grew up to be a lovely man, I am happy to say.


sj - Jul 30, 2008 10:01:27 am PDT #9296 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm so jealous of that class, vw. Please share the book list.

Jilli, I just saw the cutest black and white striped blazer at Tablots. The sleeves were way too long on me, even in petite, but you might like it.

I bought a very cutest dress for the shower at Black and white. I'll try to link to it later. Now al I need is a shiny red belt and a black shrug.