You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


EpicTangent - Jul 29, 2008 10:09:22 am PDT #9118 of 10001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

That was a scary quake, though thankfully it was short.

From San Diego it was just a kinda fun quake, but I thought it felt pretty long. Anyway, congrats on your official initiation!


NoiseDesign - Jul 29, 2008 10:09:26 am PDT #9119 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

Call me a heathen, especially since I work in theatre, but I think Shakespeare is overtaught. There are so many other valuable works of drama that are left out of curriculum to put in more Shakespeare. I know I'll be in a minority with this though.


Gadget_Girl - Jul 29, 2008 10:11:18 am PDT #9120 of 10001
Just call me "Siouxsie Shunshine".

Call me a heathen,

with pleasure. You are a heathen.

There are so many other valuable works of drama that are left out of curriculum to put in more Shakespeare. I know I'll be in a minority with this though.

I totally understand where you are coming from with this. And, to a degree, I agree with you.


Tom Scola - Jul 29, 2008 10:13:47 am PDT #9121 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Nobody ever got fired for buying Shakespeare.


Vortex - Jul 29, 2008 10:15:37 am PDT #9122 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Vortex - speaking as someone who is a hardcore procrastinator, hit 'em where they live. Otherwise they'll end up like me.

email has been sent to boss.

Call me a heathen, especially since I work in theatre, but I think Shakespeare is overtaught.

no, I don't think that you're wrong. but it's so beautiful!


amych - Jul 29, 2008 10:17:04 am PDT #9123 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think all other drama is undertaught.


Fred Pete - Jul 29, 2008 10:19:31 am PDT #9124 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I won't quarrel with you, ND -- especially on the "so much left out" point. Shakespeare also presents the hurdle of Elizabethan slang -- and that a lot of school districts would likely not approve of a lot of Shakespeare's unbowdlerized lines.

Appreciation of Shakespeare at that age also depends a lot on the teacher's style. My freshman English teacher had a "Bow before the greatness of Shakespeare!" attitude that ruined MoV for me -- it wasn't until I took a Shakespeare class in college that I realized it was a comedy.


Strix - Jul 29, 2008 10:31:35 am PDT #9125 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I don't have a quarrel with your POV; in my specific case, I'd have to point at my undergrad training. I got LOADS of Shakes -- two specifically Shakespeare classes, plus Sh. plays in Intro to Lit, 17th c. Lit in undergrad, then I was a GA for an undergrad Shakes. class in grad school. It's the drama I am most familiar with.

Hell, I think the only other plays I've had to read for my degrees were a couple of O'Neill plays. I've never even read an Ibsen play!

(Feel under-read right now. But I was focusing on medieval and Rennaisance lit. Wait, wait -- I've read Goethe and Marlowe!)


Vortex - Jul 29, 2008 10:33:45 am PDT #9126 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I was a theatre major, so of course, I read a shitload of plays. I forget that most people don't get that exposure.


Calli - Jul 29, 2008 10:41:13 am PDT #9127 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I was an English lit major, but I realized very soon that, O'Neil aside, the length of most plays was circumscribed by the tolerance of most playgoers butts. So I usually selected period plays over period novels when given the option. Restoration drama was lots of fun.