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Ah, I completely underestimated how long it would have taken the fleet to jump again. I think if Starbuck and I had decided to keep moving the Centurions, we could have pulled off a Cylon victory.

As it turned out, if Starbuck had activated them on turn 7.3, there were two Heavy activations on offer we'd have faced before your next turn. Could not have been predicted of course, but that would indeed have given you the win if we hadn't offed both Centurions within two turns. I held an Authorisation of Brutal Force, which could kill off one of them, but whether we could've taken out the other one in time is very much an open question.

I felt for you turning Cylon like that. You'd made such an effort for us in the first half. I really felt this game that we humans had a lot of breaks go our way, and it was still fairly tight at the end. Kudos to everyone - I think everyone played a good game. Right there at the end, the Cylons had to choose between the Centurions, the basestar attack and the Crisis Deck, and though your choice didn't pan out, it's what I would've chosen too.

And yeah, I had to vent to the GM! I couldn't table talk with my teammates, of course, but I had to talk to someone about my suspicions!

Hee. One of the great advantages to having a GM, there's an outlet for the ventage.

I played a couple of things wrong, like early on where I didn't really understand the benefit of DE, so I held it back thinking I could use it if we failed. But it was a check that took green, so I should have just played it because it was a higher value card than the two points it could recover after the fact. Valuable when I couldn't use the color, but it was a mistake to play it that way.

That can still be a sensible choice. It's worth more in the check, but sometimes there's a chance that you won't need it at all; you thus have a chance at saving it for next time, and can still probably salvage the situation if it's needed after all. On Baltar's Super Crisis too, I deliberately held one back to try and goad Baltar into playing a 5-value card (if he had one).

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Yeah, we ended up losing that check only by three points, so even though I had the CO's in to play the DE if needed, it ended up being one point short of successful even if I had played it as a DE. So if I'd played it as a point card, we would have passed.

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I feel I must note at this point that the number of times multiple humans were holding back a DE just in case was pretty high. You all had a lot of green.

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I feel I must note at this point that the number of times multiple humans were holding back a DE just in case was pretty high. You all had a lot of green.

Yep, after the Cylons revealed (the two characters with the lowest Leadership draw), 47% of our regular card draw was Green. That's a huge amount in just one colour.

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Can I just say how frustrating it is, as a Cylon, when there's that much Green among Team Human? "Yes, they finally failed a check! Crap. Someone played a DE. Yes, we got them this time! Frak, another DE!" Way to break a homocidal robot's heart.

Actually, I can't recall if we ever got you guys to fail a check you were actually attempting to pass.

I know we failed at least one pre-Sleeper check where Starbuck had offered help, and then played no cards, shortly before we realized she was a Cylon.

I felt for you turning Cylon like that. You'd made such an effort for us in the first half.

I realize it would be impossible (or at least incredibly messy) to do logistically, but my one real complaint about the game rules is that I wish there was some way loyalty cards were setup with "You are human" and "You may be a Cylon." and everyone gets more loyalty cards, but it takes two "You may be a Cylon" cards to actually be a Cylon. That way it's a bit less of a shock in the sleeper phase.

I realize, the game rules suggest that even human players shouldn't do their absolute best pre-sleeper phase, in case they become a Cylon, but I don't really like the idea of the humans intentionally handicapping themselves "just in case."

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Can I just say how frustrating it is, as a Cylon, when there's that much Green among Team Human? "Yes, they finally failed a check! Crap. Someone played a DE. Yes, we got them this time! Frak, another DE!" Way to break a homocidal robot's heart.

Heh. Unrevealed Cylons hate Yellow (ICs), revealed Cylons hate Green.

I realize it would be impossible (or at least incredibly messy) to do logistically, but my one real complaint about the game rules is that I wish there was some way loyalty cards were setup with "You are human" and "You may be a Cylon." and everyone gets more loyalty cards, but it takes two "You may be a Cylon" cards to actually be a Cylon. That way it's a bit less of a shock in the sleeper phase.

Especially annoying if, say, the humans reach the Sleeper Phase at 6 Distance, or you become a Cylon by the other Cylon giving you their extra card. (I've seen some cases where that seemed driven more by spite than by strategy.) It's still better than the Sympathiser joining the Cylons though. They don't even get a Super Crisis card, and can't activate the Cylon Fleet.

I realize, the game rules suggest that even human players shouldn't do their absolute best pre-sleeper phase, in case they become a Cylon, but I don't really like the idea of the humans intentionally handicapping themselves "just in case."

Yeah, for Boomer it makes some sense - she has a bonus chance to turn - and in this game, I actually did just that, choosing the worse of two Destinations just in case I wound up on the other side. But on the whole I don't favour handicapping myself like that. If I've an 80% chance of staying human, I'll generally play to that chance.

One thing you can do before the break, though, is simply play conservatively. Build up your resources, keep a reserve of one or two good cards. It's less a handicap than an investment - your reserves will still be useful post-Sleeper, no matter which team you wind up on.

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Update on Pegasus so far! I have three players who've put their hands up:

Laga
-t
StuntHusband

We still have at least three open places. If you're interested, let me know. The Airlock awaits!

I just heard D cursing from the other room. He says one of his random teammates in Modern Warfare 2 just unlocked everything. He says it's permanent but I figured it was worth asking, is there enything he try do to undo this?

I'm sure the unknown teammate is gloating, thinking he did everyone a favor, but D hates cheats.

Pete got Little Big Planet 2 today. There are levels that are steampunky bakeries. Gears and wrought iron and giant cupcakes and tea cups. It just needs some bats and vampires, and it would be straight out of my brain. So cute!

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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I'm in. Also, my brother suggests, as an alternative to New Caprica, playing a 10 distance game with +2 fuel (starting with 10).