Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

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billytea - Nov 19, 2010 10:14:35 pm PST #8083 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

ETA: What's the rationale for Baltar being the only player to get only 4 cards on his turn?

Ah, that's because his special ability, Delusional Intuition, lets him draw one more card after drawing his Crisis card. He gets two advantages: he can draw whatever is best given the Crisis Card, and he can take it from any deck, so in one sense his skill set covers every deck. (Not officially though. The designer's confirmed that if ever we get to draw extra cards from our skill set - including the starting cards - Baltar chooses just from Politics, Leadership and Engineering.)

There's another peculiarity of Baltar drawing one of his cards in the Crisis Card stage. If he's in the Brig, he skips the Crisis Card stage, and so he doesn't get his fifth card. On the other hand, a player starting their turn in Sickbay only gets to draw one card. Baltar, however, still gets his Delusional Intuition, so if he's in Sickbay, he gets to draw one more card than anyone else.


billytea - Nov 20, 2010 1:18:40 am PST #8084 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Once everyone signs off on the mix, I'll make it official.

Just to make it formal, I'm happy to sign off on this crew. Four players getting their first choice is a good result, and it would be a perfectly legitimate mix under the official rules, which is good enough for me. (The order wouldn't be possible, with 2 military leaders selected before any other categories, but I don't think that matters for playability.)


megan walker - Nov 20, 2010 6:36:55 am PST #8085 of 26134
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Ah, that's because his special ability, Delusional Intuition, lets him draw one more card after drawing his Crisis card.

Oh, that makes sense. I've not played with a Baltar in the mix and hadn't looked closely at his ability.

The order wouldn't be possible, with 2 military leaders selected before any other categories, but I don't think that matters for playability.)

Oh, I just put them in the order I had them on the survey (i.e., leaders, pollies, pilots). That's not how they were picked. I believe it actually went Adama, Starbuck, Baltar (because the previous two were gone), Helo, Chief.


Laga - Nov 20, 2010 6:40:22 am PST #8086 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm cool with these characters.


Kalshane - Nov 20, 2010 10:23:20 am PST #8087 of 26134
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm good with the mix. I'm also amused I apparently picked the "popular" choices, since every one of my choices made it into the group.


Laga - Nov 20, 2010 10:25:13 am PST #8088 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

every one of my choices made it into the group

Three of mine did, so I'm still not sure who I'm playing.


-t - Nov 20, 2010 1:44:07 pm PST #8089 of 26134
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I...have no idea what makes for a good mix. So I'm fine with this one.


Laga - Nov 20, 2010 9:22:40 pm PST #8090 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I just got a Royal Flush in Texas Hold 'em.


billytea - Nov 20, 2010 10:31:55 pm PST #8091 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Oh, that makes sense. I've not played with a Baltar in the mix and hadn't looked closely at his ability.

Baltar's an odd bird. Most characters, the advantages and disadvantages of their abilities are pretty straightforward. Baltar's abilities, however, relate less to the mechanics as to the "traitors among us" aspect of the game.

For example: his weakness is that he gets an extra loyalty card, so he's more likely to be a Cylon as any other player. But there's nothing wrong, in terms of the gaming experience, with being a Cylon. A lot of people prefer it. The weakness isn't that you're more likely to be a toaster, but that everyone else knows it, and you'll therefore be the least trusted crew member no matter which side you're on. Either way, Baltar has an uphill climb to advance his agenda.

His OPG too can be great - the chance to prove conclusively where another player's loyalties lie. But everyone else only has Baltar's word for it. Given Baltar's extra loyalty card, he'd better be extra persuasive.

It doesn't seem to hurt his popularity. On BGG, he's the most popular choice by a substantial margin.


megan walker - Nov 21, 2010 6:44:07 am PST #8092 of 26134
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

It doesn't seem to hurt his popularity. On BGG, he's the most popular choice by a substantial margin.

Well, he was the third choice for the two people that picked him.

Given that 3 of the ten characters weren't picked at all, it's pretty amazing that almost everyone got their first choice. Given the popularity of Starbuck and Roslin as second choices, the ripple effect of someone not getting their pick could have may it confusing for the assignments.