Ah, right, Badger/Sterling.
I can't imagine the Prez being against the humans from the start. That's rough.
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Ah, right, Badger/Sterling.
I can't imagine the Prez being against the humans from the start. That's rough.
I can't imagine the Prez being against the humans from the start. That's rough.
A Cylon President is particularly good at hurting Food - that game we just finished likely would've ended a lot faster if Zarek had been a Cylon. However, once they've tipped their hand, they'll usually lose the Presidency fairly quickly. They also need to build up the Quorum hand before they can do much damage, and eventually that'll be a plus for the humans.
A Cylon Admiral is bad news if your Fuel is low, and they can cause trouble just by picking slow jumps. It's less obvious too, since no one can be sure whether the other choice wasn't worse. They may keep the title for a while.
I think the Admiral might be more dangerous from the start. They can be working against humanity from the very first jump. A Cylon President can make quite a mess at some stage, but whether it's sooner or later probably doesn't matter too much.
I had a BGG game in which Admiral Tigh was a Cylon from the outset. We wanted a human sympathiser of course, so we'd got Morale into the Red. Just before the jump into the Sleeper Phase, I gave Tigh an XO. He used his first action to take the Presidency, and his second action to make an Inspirational Speech to try and push Morale back up. It failed, but that turn's Crisis Card jumped the Fleet, and he chose a bad Fuel destination. We spent the rest of the game desperately trying to get the titles back off him, then defending Fuel and Morale, both of which hit 1 at one stage. Great use of both the Presidency and the Admiralty to try and screw us over.
Yeah, they should've just named him Badger Crowley.
BSG
Well, the results are in!
Following the survey tiebreaker rules, we get this character selection, which gives 4 first choices and 1 third choice:
William Adama:
3 Leadership (green), 2 Tactics (purple)
Helo:
2 Leadership (green), 2 Tactics (purple), 1 Piloting (red)
Baltar:
1 Engineering (blue), 1 Leadership (green), 2 Politics (yellow)
Starbuck:
1 Engineering (blue) or Leadership (green), 2 Tactics (purple), 2 Piloting (red)
Chief:
2 Engineering (blue), 2 Leadership (green), 1 Politics (yellow)
Adama would start as Admiral and Baltar as President.
Total draw for this group would be 3 (or 4) blue, 3 yellow, 3 red, 6 purple, (8 or) 9 green. Is that okay with everyone? I think it's a pretty good balance.
Note: Starbuck was the most popular character, with 4 votes, then Adama with 3, although Adama was the one with 2 first-choice votes. No one picked Tigh, Boomer, or Zarek as any of their choices.
BSG
Ok! So there's me and... Toaster-frakker, Toaster-frakker, Toaster-frakker, Toaster-frakker...
Aw, crap. We're screwed.
(PS: which players got which characters?)
Total draw for this group would be 3 (or 4) blue, 3 yellow, 3 red, 6 purple, (8 or) 9 green. Is that okay with everyone? I think it's a pretty good balance.
It's certainly workable. We're a bit short of Politics, especially once Baltar is inevitably revealed to be a Cylon, but that's ok.
Jeez we're not even playing yet and already with the accusations.
You're right, we should find another basis for accusations. Let's see, you've been a Cylon more often than anyone else in the game, so...
Jeez we're not even playing yet and already with the accusations.
This is exactly why I didn't put who was who. Once everyone signs off on the mix, I'll make it official.
BTW, the next option in line didn't provide an obvious president, so I didn't post it.
We're a bit short of Politics
There's actually not much yellow to be had since only 4 characters automatically draw it. I guess that's because you get it on the board in the Press Room.
ETA: What's the rationale for Baltar being the only player to get only 4 cards on his turn?
There's actually not much yellow to be had since only 4 characters automatically draw it.
True, but three of those four are politicians, and most games have two pollies. Looking over the BGG games, the average politics draw for a five-player game has been 4.8 cards. Even treating Apollo as if he only drew Green, the average is 4.25 cards. Out of 28 5-player games, all but 4 had greater Politics draws than we have.
I don't know how the game design went with the Press Room, but I think it may have worked the other way around - they usually expect there to be more Politics, but if there isn't, there needs to be a way to address the shortfall.
In any case, although most games there have had more Yellow drawn, it doesn't seem to make much difference to the results. The human victory rate given a 3-Politics draw isn't significantly different from the average rate.
Now you have me wondering about how card draw affects odds of victory. I wil lhave to look into that sometime.