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'War Stories'


Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

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chrismg - Jun 23, 2012 2:06:53 pm PDT #16368 of 26134
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

If I were asked my opinion, I'd say the decision to decamp to Caprica when there were four OA centurions on the board might have something to do with it. Spamming OA activations would have kept us busy punching, and maybe destroyed more ships.


NoiseDesign - Jun 23, 2012 3:00:14 pm PDT #16369 of 26134
Our wings are not tired

BSG

Yeah, my whole strategy was to play the long game and stay hidden until I could steal the admiralty and jump early, then there was the skill check that revealed me. Basically I had one positive card left to play, so I played two negative and one positive and then the hand went in such a way as to leave no doubt who played the negative cards. I considered playing only the one positive card, but it was a huge skill check and I was holding a ton of cards and thought that it was just as likely that I'd get outed if I didn't play the full three cards I was allowed.


omnis_audis - Jun 23, 2012 3:35:35 pm PDT #16370 of 26134
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

hot damn! Can't believe we did it! With all those resources flirting with nil. Crazy. Amazing. Must have been the stellar leadership of the Presidency.


askye - Jun 23, 2012 4:50:37 pm PDT #16371 of 26134
Thrive to spite them

Must have been. I was really surprised we managed to pull it off.


omnis_audis - Jun 23, 2012 6:30:39 pm PDT #16372 of 26134
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

To be honest, I thought the Admiral was a toaster for the longest time.


chrismg - Jun 23, 2012 6:55:10 pm PDT #16373 of 26134
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

To be honest, I thought the Admiral was a toaster for the longest time.

(blink, blink) Me? Really?


billytea - Jun 24, 2012 4:33:56 am PDT #16374 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

Let's do the end-of-game summary:

Round 10.3 - Tory

Locations and Hands
Kat: Occupation Authority; 4 cards
Adama: FTL Control; 1 card
Tory: Communications; 11 cards
Gaeta: Caprica; 2 cards
Apollo: Hangar Deck; 9 cards

Sectors
Sector 1: Empty
Sector 2: Empty
Sector 3: Empty
Sector 4: 4 Raiders
Sector 5: 1 RSV, Civilians C G
Sector 6: 2 RSVs, Civilians A B E F H I

Resources
Fuel: 1
Food: 3
Morale: 2
Population: 6
Viper Reserves: 0
Damaged Vipers: 3
Raptors: 2
Boarding Party: Alejandro (2)

Other
Nukes: 0
Jump Track: Galactica
Distance Travelled: Earth
Galactica Damage: 0

Locked Civvies: 0
Prepped Civvies: 0
Occupation Forces: Zwanzig (BC)/Michaud (BC)/Balthazar (BC)

For those who were interested, the ships' contents were:

Civilian ship A: 1 Population
Civilian ship B: 2 Population
Civilian ship C: 1 Population
Civilian ship E: 1 Population, 1 Morale
Civilian ship F: 1 Population, 1 Fuel
Civilian ship G: 1 Population
Civilian ship H: 2 Population
Civilian ship I: 1 Population

You were good to go once you'd evacuated civvie F; though that really only meant one turn faster than you managed anyway.


billytea - Jun 24, 2012 5:11:42 am PDT #16375 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

Perhaps I should they hardly ever got skill checks after I had good cards to spike them with.

On the other hand, failing Second Thoughts should only have cost 1 Morale. Each side had their share of lucky moments.

If I were asked my opinion, I'd say the decision to decamp to Caprica when there were four OA centurions on the board might have something to do with it. Spamming OA activations would have kept us busy punching, and maybe destroyed more ships.

Activating the OA only moves one Occ force at a time. There were only two times the Cylons did anything but hit the OA; if they had kept using it, all that would have happened is that the last civvie would've been destroyed, for a loss of 1 Population.

My assessment is the opposite; activating occupation forces was largely a low-return option. A better choice would be Breeders Canyon. Over half the NC crisis cards threaten Morale, and a lot of them are Current Player's Choice. When the humans have to deal with more crises than they have human turns, eventually something's going to slip through the cracks.


billytea - Jun 24, 2012 7:00:02 am PDT #16376 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

Congratulations humans, commiserations Cylons. The first successful escape from New Caprica! And it only took 48 turns.

The humans reached New Caprica with Fuel at 1 and Morale down to 3, so clearly it hadn't been an easy trip; but there were a few things that had gone their way. Both Cylons turned at the Sleeper Phase; for the first couple of jumps, everyone was on the same side. They both did good damage on the way out (Kat killed 3 Population, Gaeta 2 Morale), but then they were both executed without any trouble, denying them their reveal powers and super crises (though Kat took a turn to pull an SC anyway). They reached New Caprica with both nukes, which proved crucial for the final battle.

Even so, I count at least three ways the Cylons probably could have pulled off a victory. If Gaeta hadn't tipped his hand when he did, the humans would've lost. Galactica returned just before his next turn, and he had a Critical Situation in hand. He could've played it to get two actions - use his OPG to take the Admiralty, then order the fleet to jump away. Final resource loss: 11 Population, 1 Fuel, 4 Morale. Three resources would've fallen to zero. (I'm glad he didn't, really. The toaster Admiral is a bit of a 'gotcha' way to lose.) Second, as mentioned before, if the Cylons had just kept throwing crises at the fleet, Morale would likely have not survived. Finally, if they'd gone to the Cylon fleet to egg on Galactica's boarding party, it would have given them victory on Apollo's last turn (or at least forced them to fight it). That last one wasn't obvious - there happened to be three crises activating heavy raiders in short order - but it was an option nonetheless.


Polter-Cow - Jun 24, 2012 7:08:29 am PDT #16377 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BSG (Kat)

Second, as mentioned before, if the Cylons had just kept throwing crises at the fleet, Morale would likely have not survived.

Well, we tried! Would Breeders Canyon have been a better choice than Caprica because even though we wouldn't get a choice, they wouldn't have get Jump icons?

Finally, if they'd gone to the Cylon fleet to egg on Galactica's boarding party, it would have given them victory on Apollo's last turn (or at least forced them to fight it). That last one wasn't obvious - there happened to be three crises activating heavy raiders in short order - but it was an option nonetheless.

Honestly, I considered that, but I didn't think it would be very fun, and I also wasn't sure we had enough time to pull that since the damn basestars were gone and they had very little threat in the air.