Book: Yes, I'd forgotten you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now. Got your next heist planned? Simon: No. But I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

'War Stories'


Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

A thread for the discussion of games: board, LARP, MMORPG, video, tabletop RPG, game theory etc. etc. and all attendant news, developments and ancillary subjects thereof, as well as coordinating/scheduling games either online or IRL. All are welcome to chime in, talk about their favorite games or learn about gaming of any sort.

PLEASE TO WHITEFONT SPOILERS for video games, RPG modules or anything for which foreknowledge of events might lessen one's enjoyment of whatever gaming experience.


Polter-Cow - Feb 24, 2012 4:21:35 pm PST #15533 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BSG

Wow, what the hell? Why were you helping us all the time, then? Seems like you would have been wanting us to do terribly.


omnis_audis - Feb 24, 2012 4:47:35 pm PST #15534 of 26134
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

BSG

Good game folks. For the record, I was a toaster from card one. Never being toaster before, I didn't know what to do. I was playing it real coy. I didn't spike checks, but I did my best to avoid helping. It pained me to make all those repairs, but I didn't want to be outed. I was hoping for some sign of my fellow traveler. I think what tipped me strongest that ND was a Cylon, was when he said "I dunno who to believe"... because, I'm really not that great of a liar.


askye - Feb 24, 2012 5:05:55 pm PST #15535 of 26134
Thrive to spite them

BSG

I had a lot of fun playing, even though I wasn't always sure the best course of action and sometimes I lost track of how things were going, pitfall of not actually having the game. Although now I wish I had the game and a bunch of people to play it with.


chrismg - Feb 24, 2012 5:06:18 pm PST #15536 of 26134
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

You pretty much had it right earlier; I was guessing Morale would drop enough on its own, which it did. The problem was, you repaired Pegasus too fast for me to finish it off, so I needed you to survive long enough for Galactica to come back, then I could use the Basestars to finish the job.


Polter-Cow - Feb 24, 2012 5:44:12 pm PST #15537 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BSG

Oh, it was just Morale, okay. Interesting position. I guess if you had actively toward your goal, you may have killed us too fast, maybe? Guess your strategy almost worked.

Man, both Cylons from the start! Huh. What a game.


NoiseDesign - Feb 24, 2012 6:01:30 pm PST #15538 of 26134
Our wings are not tired

No, I wasn't a Cylon until the midway point.


billytea - Feb 24, 2012 6:10:27 pm PST #15539 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

Man, both Cylons from the start! Huh. What a game.

No, Baltar was a Cylon from the start; Roslin only turned from the break. (And then there's Six, of course.)

For the record, I was a toaster from card one. Never being toaster before, I didn't know what to do. I was playing it real coy. I didn't spike checks, but I did my best to avoid helping.

Yeah, that's not what it looked like to me. Way back, turn 1.4, you played a Support the People that gave the humans no less than 30 more points in skill cards, at a time when they were weak and vulnerable. Then, on turn 2.2, Tigh gave you an XO right before your turn. (Six doesn't count.) Instead of sabotaging or revealing or anything, you went and fixed some vipers. In fact, before the Sleeper Phase, there was pretty much no one else who'd done more to prove themselves. (Which also means I was pretty surprised that everyone was still so suspicious of you. That really sucks, doing an insane amount to be helpful and not even getting any trust out of it.)


omnis_audis - Feb 24, 2012 8:15:45 pm PST #15540 of 26134
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Yeah, I may have overcompensated a bit. Sabotage clearly isn't one of my strong points.


billytea - Feb 25, 2012 3:00:20 am PST #15541 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

A game wrap-up. First, congratulations to the Cylons, commiserations to the humans. Come New Caprica, with 9 Population and 4 Morale, the humans were looking at a tough run, but not an impossible one. Alas, your Cylon President used her position of power to kill no less than 3 Morale, and spiked one more point with a very effective use of Red Tape. (At the right moment, that card can be a real killer for the Cylons.)

In fact, pre-NC the humans caught a number of breaks. Six was forced to be helpful in order to buy time to cause the damage she needed. Baltar was likewise very helpful; and when he finally did break out his OPG in the hopes of stirring something up, it so happened that his crisis let the humans execute him immediately.

In fact, easily the most volatile period in the game was the few turns 4.4 to 5.1:

Turn 4.4: Baltar uses his OPG. Despite a crisis that puts his own head on the chopping block, he goes ahead and accuses Dee, and is executed for his troubles.
Turn 4.5: Dee scouts both crisis and destination, and buried a Cylon attack (from the crisis deck) and Icy Moon (from the destination deck).
Turn 4.6: the fleet jumps! Dee gambles on rejecting Cylon Raiders (which would have reached New Caprica, but with only 1 Fuel and with 3 extra raiders to await Galactica's return) to take Algae Planet and another whole jump cycle to reach NC.
Turn 4.7: in a pivotal move, Tigh escapes the Brig, and restores the Presidency to Roslin.
Turn 5.1: Dee's destination gamble pays off, as the crew passes Legendary Discovery with the help of a favourable Destiny and a very well-timed Establish Networks from Cally.

One last comment, about Destiny: throughout most of the game, Destiny was surprisingly strong. At game start, its average value per card was 3.1, well above average. After the first refill, it was even stronger at 3.17. For the most part, that worked out in the humans' favour, as Destiny helped out on most checks. (There were only two checks that the humans tried to pass and failed, both of which cost Morale.)

This was the first New Caprica game where Population wasn't a problem. You finished the game at 9 Population; the remaining civvies only had 8 Pop. You could've jumped away without a single ship and you'd still have had 1 Population. Unfortunately, Morale was more than happy to take up the slack.

Out of three New Caprica games so far, you guys have found three different ways for it to kill you. Game 1, you had many more ships than Population, and needed to evacuate almost all of them. (Not that Ellen Tigh gave you a chance.) Game 2, you only had a few ships, but Population was so low that the Occupation Forces could finish the job. And in this game Population was safe but Morale was a killer. I'm actually pretty impressed that the module can offer so many different play experiences.

Finally, I'm interested to know how you all (Chris in particular) found the Cylon leader experience. Interesting? Didn't really have much impact? A bit isolating? (From my perspective, Six' agenda was a tough one for her - hard to influence Galactica's damage, especially while infiltrating, leaving her fairly dependent on the luck of the crisis draw.)


Polter-Cow - Feb 25, 2012 7:10:44 am PST #15542 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm actually pretty impressed that the module can offer so many different play experiences.

That is cool, actually. I want to see if Team Human can beat New Caprica! Of course, watch it happen when I'm a Cylon.

in a pivotal move, Tigh escapes the Brig, and restores the Presidency to Roslin.

Oh right! Tigh, I blame you.

Finally, I'm interested to know how you all (Chris in particular) found the Cylon leader experience. Interesting? Didn't really have much impact? A bit isolating?

It was kind of weird since Six was basically playing as human the whole time, so we just thought of her as another human against Team Cylon. But we also considered her a Cylon and not exactly One of Us because, in reality, there was no telling when she might do something bad. It was like she was a hidden Cylon, but we knew what her Loyalty card said.