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Especially because Destiny kept helping Team Human.
Oh, gods. Between that and Tory spitting out a never ending stream of ICs, I don't think I ever successfully spiked a check? I Revealed with 2 six-ers and a five-er and I still think they passed every check!
I kept discarding Treachery intentionally in hopes that Boomer would Sabotage.
Which I happily did, the ONE TIME I got a Sabotage.
And yeah, if they hit New Caprica with Pop close to full, the Win The Game Button may not work. We got lucky on those die rolls.
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I've just finished a game on bgg playing Ellen. She's a good character, quite versatile. I spent most of the game passing XOs to Boomer.
I'm also surprised that no one cottoned on to the fact that before Sleeper, I was Adroitly giving everyone good cards. After Sleeper, I gave shitty cards or no cards.
Honestly, from what I've seen, it was handing off the IC that was unusual. Why wouldn't you keep the good cards? Then you know they're not falling into the wrong hands.
What you can do too is pass off cards for their effect. For instance, Ellen usually won't get much chance to use a Major Victory, so she could pass that to the Admiral. (Or pass XOs to characters who don't draw much Green.) Now, if you start throwing Treachery around, that might get attention.
What did everyone think of New Caprica?
As promised, here are some observations about how the New Caprica module changes the game. For all that it occupies only the last quarter or so of the game, New Caprica changes pretty much everything, because it changes how the humans win. Here are some observations:
- On New Caprica, the Admiral is king. A Cylon Admiral can jump early when the humans would lose, or refuse to jump when they would win. I have seen many games where the crew decided to execute a trusted Admiral (or Ellen, if she still has her OPG) "just in case". With Exodus loyalty rules, though, this isn't the safeguard it used to be (though it will still work pretty well on Ellen or Gaeta, since their replacement will have a different OPG).
- On that note, it's a lot cheaper to execute people on New Caprica - it's just a 7 GPT check.
- The game ends in a final space battle. It may be a good idea to keep something in the tank for it. If you can't evacuate enough ships to win within a turn or three, you'll likely have to stand and fight.
- The key to a New Caprica game is Population. However, avoiding Population loss is less important than the
source
of the Population loss. Consider:
Assume for a moment that all civvies just contained 1 Population. Say you arrived on NC with 12 Population, and 12 civvies. How many do you need to evacuate before the last jump? Just one. You can leave all the rest behind and you'll still have 1 Population and the win. Now say you had only 3 Population and 3 civvies. How many do you need to evacuate now? Still just one. You can escape New Caprica just as quickly in this situation as if you still had your full contingent.
But what if you arrived with 3 Population, but still had all 12 civvies? How many do you need to evacuate now? You can only afford to lose two ships; that means you'll have to evacuate 10 ships before you can order the last jump. 10 ships, facing crises and Cylon attack all the while.
What this means is that losing civvies before you reach New Caprica isn't such a big deal. As long as you don't lose everything (still a risk - best not to get complacent), it just reduces the number of ships wanting to be evacuated at game end. On the other hand, lose too much Population to other causes (early jumps, crisis cards, 'miscellaneous'), and you guarantee a long, hard fight on New Caprica, while you evacuate ship after ship to try to make up the shortfall.
- In answer to the question of how the humans can win with New Caprica, then, the short answer is: protect your Population from any losses except civilian losses. If you can do that, you can be ready to jump within just a turn or two of Galactica's return. That way, the final space battle isn't such a threat, and there's less time for a Cylon to play havoc with the Admiralty. They worst they can pull may be to delay takeoff - troublesome, but not necessarily fatal.
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Let's start talking about the next game (which, incidentally, will be game 11).
- How's your schedule for a start date?
- New Caprica. Want to give it another shot?
I'm in. I'd love to give New Caprica another shot. I can start pretty much immediately. the only upcoming schedule conflict that I have will be travel from December 16th to the 30th, but I should have internet for most of that time.
I'm in and definitely want to give New Caprica another shot. I can also start pretty much whenever.
Excellent, that's a good start. But we'll probably want some human players too. Who else is in?
Wait, I'm not done breaking down the last game yet! So I played witnout a spreadsheet this time just to see how it worked. It was bad. I made some errors in calculation, and I probably missed stuff like pc holding onto ics. I was cranky at never drawing them myself, but I thought it was just laga getting a bunch!
I held onto the damn pp the whole game and never got to use it, although I alluded to it throughout. I was suspicious of Boomer before she revealed. Remember when I offered her a free get out of jail card when the crisis threatened it? I intended to act unilaterally and execute her instead. But she didn't get jailed, and it wasn't long after she revealed. So then I held onto it thinking I might need a get out of jail free card later. So Ellen lying low was a good call, 'cause I had an itchy trigger finger the rest of the game.
Anyway, yes, I'd like to explore NC further, but I also think there should be new (or old) blood, so bt make sure you advertise in the righthand sidebar. I can start right away. I have travel for the entire holiday season but in general that will give me more online time not less.
Remember when I offered her a free get out of jail card when the crisis threatened it? I intended to act unilaterally and execute her instead.
That would indeed have got her out of the Brig, it's true.
Hey, I didn't say out of the Brig to
where,
precisely.