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Gaming 1: You are likely to be eaten by a grue

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-t - May 21, 2011 7:59:55 pm PDT #11596 of 26134
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

BSG

Hee, I did keep an SP, just in case we survived long enough to use it. I don't know if I would have used it on the first shot or saved it for the second, though. I am unpredictable that way.


Polter-Cow - May 21, 2011 8:05:38 pm PDT #11597 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BSG

If we had done that, then Tory would have tried to give us a Crisis. What would have been her two choices? Could they have killed our Morale? LET'S PLAY THE HYPOTHETICAL GAME WHERE WE WIN.


billytea - May 21, 2011 8:33:24 pm PDT #11598 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

...Yeah, we would have used it on the first one. Also, there was one SP played into the check, so unless either Kat or Tigh held one back in the check, we had none.

You had one SP left after one got played into the check. You had two going in.

If we had done that, then Tory would have tried to give us a Crisis. What would have been her two choices? Could they have killed our Morale? LET'S PLAY THE HYPOTHETICAL GAME WHERE WE WIN.

Tory would have been able to pick a crisis called (I kid you not) "Joe's Bar", with a 12 YGB check (what the hell kind of bar is this?) to avoid Morale loss. If you'd got it on a human turn, also to avoid the player getting brigged. There were a lot of Morale-affecting crises coming up (not surprising, 43% of all crises can affect Morale). You could maybe have got through, maybe not - it would've been tight.

Oh, and your next jump? The top two destinations were 2 Distance. The third, which was up for grabs thanks to the Mission Specialist, was 3 Distance.

(PS: on your last turn where you picked up 2 Green? If you'd picked up 2 yellow instead, you would've drawn the PoP-6.)


Polter-Cow - May 21, 2011 8:36:52 pm PDT #11599 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BSG

You had one SP left after one got played into the check. You had two going in.

So if Kat had warned us not to play, then we could have used both and we would have killed that damn Centurion.

But we still would have lost on Morale, most likely.

The top two destinations were 2 Distance. The third, which was up for grabs thanks to the Mission Specialist, was 3 Distance.

DAMMIT.

on your last turn where you picked up 2 Green? If you'd picked up 2 yellow instead, you would've drawn the PoP-6.

I HATE YOU. Of course, I would have used it to spring Tigh, and then he would have been stuck in Joe's Bar, and we would have still lost, so hey.


Laga - May 21, 2011 9:29:12 pm PDT #11600 of 26134
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

BSG

To be fair, the only idea I had was to crash the RSV into the armoury. It wouldn't really have been fair for billytea to suggest that I might make it work with Apollo's ability.


Polter-Cow - May 21, 2011 9:42:05 pm PDT #11601 of 26134
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

BSG

True, but if you had floated the idea, I might have come up with the rest. I had been itching to use that ability.

It's largely irrelevant, though, as we were so low on Morale it was unlikely we would have survived, but given that we could have jumped 3, we would only have had to get three jump icons and get to Kobol. There was a slim chance we could have scraped by. Very slim.

Man, I want to be on the human team and win. It seems like it would be so fulfilling. The Cylons have it so easy.


Liese S. - May 21, 2011 9:55:02 pm PDT #11602 of 26134
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

BSG

I KNEW IT. I HATE YOU SO MUCH.

Hee. Yeah. Sorry about that.

Ooh, such suspense and terror for you!

It was scary!

That's a crazy awesome going down guns ablaze hypothetical scenario.

The Centurions were effective because they feel so menacing. But the continual morale loss was the real killer here. It kept your resources taxed enough to where you had to keep trying for stuff that dropped it, but you kept losing it, so you had to keep spending cards, etc.

Drew, you're right about the card drain. I think that was what we did best.

And -t, you played Tigh really well. You made good use of the Pradmiralty.


billytea - May 22, 2011 1:38:41 am PDT #11603 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

Putting my oar in to say I'd be interested in playing next time. I don't have the physical game, however.

Good stuff, we'd be happy to have you. I do encourage people to buy the game (and several people have off the back of these games), but it's not necessary. I can cover whatever you need to know. If you've been following along with this game, you'll have a feel for the game flow.

You DID spike it! It WAS a one and one! Oh man.

That really threw your Destiny count off. At one stage you emailed me saying that you'd worked out Destiny was down to 2 Blue cards; in fact, neither of them were Blue.

I spent most of the game hoarding at least two repair cards. At one point I was wondering if we could pull off a cylon victory without ever actually revealing as cylons.

It's certainly possible. The very first PBF game on boardgamegeek, a Cylon Boomer and Helo won without revealing, or even being discovered until the final round (where they were both ready to use their OPG to kill Fuel).

It felt like we also did a pretty good job of keeping Team Human starved for cards. That was one of my main reasons for not revealing. It kept meaning that you had to divide your attention and worry how badly a spiked check was going to burn you.

Oh, yes. At one point you had 17 cards between you to the humans' 3. That was why Morale kept getting hammered. It keeps coming up on crisis cards and skill checks, and you could never defend against them. The worst turn, 3.5, saw you lose 1 Morale from Cally shooting Starbuck IN THE FACE!, 1 Morale from failing Loss of a Friend, and 1 last point from Iron Will after Cally Quick Fixed the check into negatives.

There was a turn that, if I had managed to get that godsdamn Political Prowess (WHY DID THE CYLON GET IT NO FAIR)

Because she drew three times as many Yellow as anyone else, even on a regular day, let alone when she was pulling extra cards from Quorum plays. Just a suggestion: it may not be a high-return strategy to base your play on the prospect of drawing a single particular card out of 30. (Likewise, trying to hold onto the most common card in the deck, in order to starve the other players, will probably not be too successful.)

Tory is a card drawing machine, but the draws themselves were crazy!

So true! This was her hand at one point, for instance:

Support the People 1
Consolidate Power 1
Investigative Committee 3
Investigative Committee 3
Investigative Committee 3
Investigative Committee 4
Preventative Policy 5
Executive Order 2
Declare Emergency 3
State of Emergency 6
Launch Scout 2
Strategic Planning 4
Maximum Firepower 4

Even on her last draw, she pulled a 3 and a 6 (the BoB that Kat had played just three turns prior).

And -t, you played Tigh really well. You made good use of the Pradmiralty.

This is true. I've noticed it's quite common in these games for the Quorum to get largely ignored. Not the case this game (Tory had an added incentive to push it, of course.)


Liese S. - May 22, 2011 6:34:18 am PDT #11604 of 26134
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It was unbelievable! I spent half the game trying to figure out how not to play cards! I had a ton of Support the Peoples and that State of Emergency really could have helped Team Human. Too bad I wasn't on it!

And I almost played it anyway just for the fun of it, when I remembered that Tigh still had Execute and would kill me with the turn I'd given him. Ha!


billytea - May 22, 2011 6:46:09 am PDT #11605 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

BSG

And I almost played it anyway just for the fun of it, when I remembered that Tigh still had Execute and would kill me with the turn I'd given him.

I wanted to see you play it on the turn you tried to brig Tigh. I have no idea whether it would've been better for the humans or the Cylons, but it would have been excellent either way.

Incidentally, note that if you play an SoE, you yourself take the first action. YOu could have used your action to reveal before he got the chance to execute you. (Or do what you did, try to escape the Brig. You were very unlucky with that check, Destiny was -6 against you.)