Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.

'Unleashed'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Aug 10, 2008 11:47:55 am PDT #543 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

It sounds to me like you might be making it more complicated than it needs to be, but I don't know the scope of the book, plotwise.

It's pretty big and complex, and as an alternative history involves more worldbuilding than I'm used to. Also, though I'm trying to make it stand alone reasonably well, it is the first of a series, so I'm laying groundwork for future events.

That said, I may be overcompensating. Having finally admitted that I've under-edited in the past, I'm all fired up for a perfect orgy of rewrites. And this may be normal this close to the end of a rough draft, but right now I feel like the WIP is an utter disaster and that I'm a terrible writer who never should've attempted something so complex. My one hope is that I can rewrite it into something that does justice to the idea and the characters.


erikaj - Aug 10, 2008 2:17:11 pm PDT #544 of 6681
Always Anti-fascist!

does somebody have pages of mine? Because I could use the feedback.


Allyson - Aug 10, 2008 5:08:01 pm PDT #545 of 6681
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Anyone up for a beta of about 1800 words? It's been such a shitty chapter to write, so much gloom. It worries me. From here on in, Sam's adventure buoys up in tone and tempo, and chapter three is hilarious. But i just can't seem to get past the owl's loss of her babies, I can't seem to grasp it in a way that isn't making me either cry or beat my head against the keyboard from the melodrama.


Beverly - Aug 10, 2008 5:27:31 pm PDT #546 of 6681
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Send it Allyson. I'm always eager to take a look.

And you know, I may not have anything to offer except, "It reads fine, to me." But I'll be glad to take a look.


Barb - Aug 10, 2008 5:37:06 pm PDT #547 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

If you want, Allyson, I'll take a look. Profile email is fine.


Toddson - Aug 11, 2008 4:46:12 am PDT #548 of 6681
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Also, after some reading I've been doing, may I suggest getting a Buffista copyeditor? I am SO fed up with reading books that misuse words, use words to mean the exact opposite of what they mean, can't keep track of their characters' names. damn. (I mean, really - the book I began reading this weekend had a character change his name about three chapters in. And one I read when I was sick was referring to the "penile system" ... sigh.)


Ginger - Aug 11, 2008 5:14:35 am PDT #549 of 6681
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Allyson, I'd love to help beta whenever you need it. I already love Sam.

Todd, have you seen that Honda TV spot where the Mr. Opportunity cartoon character says "At savings that could be very *wink, wink* opportunistic." Opportunistic definition: "taking immediate advantage, often unethically, of any circumstance of possible benefit." That is the way I think of car dealers, but I didn't think they'd admit it in advertising.

There's also a Chevron ad in which they boast of drilling in "unchartered waters." Sigh.


Barb - Aug 11, 2008 5:22:24 am PDT #550 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

It's not just in books, Toddson-- I read an AP article on Tom Daley yesterday and had to spit three times in response to not only the poor writing, but at the fact that the writer of the piece said something to the effect of "Daley, a Britain," as opposed to "Briton."

::headdesk::


Toddson - Aug 11, 2008 6:15:41 am PDT #551 of 6681
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The one misuse that makes me see red - using "descendent" to mean their grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. ... known to those of us who actually know English as "ancestors". snarl.


sumi - Aug 11, 2008 6:51:24 am PDT #552 of 6681
Art Crawl!!!

Yes! I hear that all the time. I don't understand the confusion.