I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

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The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Beverly - Jul 07, 2008 10:29:33 am PDT #315 of 6681
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Heinlein used to say that there are really only three plots: boy meets girl and variants, the brave little tailor, and the man who learned better.

Wait. I thought the only three original stories were: Boy Meets Girl and variants, A Stranger Comes to Town, and The Quest.

Someone who has won awards retelling familiar tales, with a twist, of a writer a couple of generations older, and whose forte is retold fairytales often told me, "There are no original stories. None. Tell what you want, just make sure you tell it well."

(If I wanted to work at it I could get another told or tell in that sentence somewhere)


Connie Neil - Jul 07, 2008 11:55:56 am PDT #316 of 6681
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I had to have the "no original plots" talk with a friend several years ago. I told her, "The only ones who came up with original stories were the cavemen who told them first." That cheered her up.

The Brave Little Tailor could share elements with The Quest, but I think A Stranger Comes is more pervasive than The Man Who Learned Better, though the latter covers most of Aesop's Fables.


-t - Jul 07, 2008 12:34:53 pm PDT #317 of 6681
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Does V of E have the same Napoleon succeeded in invading England thing that you do, Susan? I'm not familiar at all.


Susan W. - Jul 07, 2008 12:35:59 pm PDT #318 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Yeah, it does, though it sounds like she might resolve that in one book instead of spinning it out over a series like I'm planning to.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2008 12:37:33 pm PDT #319 of 6681
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Err. Spoiler whitefont for that plot point, plz?


-t - Jul 07, 2008 12:41:08 pm PDT #320 of 6681
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'd still say that not having the dragon element is a big differentiator for you. I really love your description and the pains you are taking in determining what effects the changes you postulate would make to the timeline are appealing to me as a reader. I don't think you've lost all chance of reaching a receptive publisher.


-t - Jul 07, 2008 12:43:10 pm PDT #321 of 6681
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Font fixed.


Susan W. - Jul 07, 2008 1:18:26 pm PDT #322 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'd still say that not having the dragon element is a big differentiator for you. I really love your description and the pains you are taking in determining what effects the changes you postulate would make to the timeline are appealing to me as a reader. I don't think you've lost all chance of reaching a receptive publisher.

Thanks, -t! Right now, I'm just feeling flummoxed and unsure of myself, and I was already in the writing doldrums before--standard "Why is this draft sucking so much, and am I writer enough to fix it on rewrite?" stuff. So now there's this added layer of anxiety. I love this story, and I love to write, but this is one of those days where it seems like the only thing worse than writing is not writing.

ETA that sounds more grumpy than I meant it to. I tried, for a few minutes, to imagine myself not writing, or even taking more than a few weeks off writing. I couldn't do it. I'd be lost and adrift. It's just that right now, the thing that drives me is driving me crazy.


Beverly - Jul 07, 2008 2:03:19 pm PDT #323 of 6681
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Another point to remember, Susan, is that an AU is not necessarily a fantasy. Well, it is in a way, but it's not always classed that way, shelved that way, or published by the same houses. There may be more gap than you think right now.


Susan W. - Jul 07, 2008 2:08:45 pm PDT #324 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

One of my CPs, the one who happens to love Novik and also totally gets what I'm trying to do, is taking me out to dinner tomorrow. I'm going to drown my sorrows in curry and naan...