Jayne: 'Cause I don't know these folks. Don't much care to. Mal: They're whores. Jayne: I'm in.

'Heart Of Gold'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Gudanov - Feb 10, 2010 6:05:25 am PST #3053 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I'm still in 53 and still haven't got to the reunion.

I hope I can manage to cut a good 15k words after this revision. It feels like a construction project, I've got parts I want to add or expand, I need to remove things and probably more than I have on the chopping table already.


Gudanov - Feb 10, 2010 8:44:39 am PST #3054 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

Some comments and my own observations made me realize one of the many fixes I need to make are to establish the relationship between two of the races better. My Faran race should be the sort of thing you scare children with while the same is pretty much true in reverse. There are some exceptions in one location in particular where there is an uneasy treaty, but in general I'm not sure the vibe is there.

So many things to work on.


erikaj - Feb 10, 2010 9:02:56 am PST #3055 of 6690
Always Anti-fascist!

Thoughts on paying for notes? I still have a little Christmas money so it wouldn't be a sacrifice as such... But that would be it so I'd hate to pay to have the guy say he hated it...people have been hating my work for free for years.


Gudanov - Feb 10, 2010 10:03:12 am PST #3056 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I have no idea how useful that is or not. I could look at something, but it wouldn't be quick turnaround at the moment. Not that I'm an expert by any stretch of the imagination.


erikaj - Feb 10, 2010 10:18:16 am PST #3057 of 6690
Always Anti-fascist!

It's okay...I know you're busy and this is forty pages. Just wondered if anyone here had, essentially, paid for a beta reader.


Atropa - Feb 10, 2010 12:05:17 pm PST #3058 of 6690
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

wanders in to whine

Good God, I hate writing TOCs. Really, really hate. My agent told me that I didn't have to do a full proposal for the 2nd GCS book (no sample chapter), but this TOC is going to kill me. Because I know what I want to write, but turning it into an outline? Not how my brain works.


P.M. Marc - Feb 10, 2010 12:57:43 pm PST #3059 of 6690
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Jilli, clearly, we need to meet up and I can be your official notetaker/outline wrangler or something. When's it due?


Atropa - Feb 10, 2010 2:05:20 pm PST #3060 of 6690
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Plei, I'd like to send the proposal off by early next week. But! I just sent the TOC draft to the beta readers (of which you are one, ahem). But yes, having you be my official outline wrangler would be awesome.


Gudanov - Feb 11, 2010 5:50:33 am PST #3061 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I'm still chipping away at 53. At least the next time I work on it I'll get to the reunion which nails down another plot point on the way to the conclusion.

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need an extra chapter. This will take me to chapter 58 being the last chapter.


Gudanov - Feb 12, 2010 5:31:23 am PST #3062 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I'm at the reunion and ticking off another plot point. I may finish 53 at the point I'm at though, it would be a good stopping point.

Not that I've reached this point I realize just how insane this bit sounds, it sounds like the Jerry Springer show. Hopefully it works better in the story than in the description.

Whitefonted for Beta Readers

She and he were lovers although it was a secret since it's taboo between their races. His sister tried to kill her, but she fled after accidentally killing his sister. Her companion also stole a priceless item of his though she was unaware of that at the time.

Then she finds out she's pregnant. She sends him a message via a third party. Later, the priceless item indicates that her child will be very important to his people.

While they are apart, he ends up engaged to another woman who he has a little history with though the engagement is being sped up mostly for political reasons. His fiance loves him and he has feelings for her though with caveats.

Her message ends up being intercepted by fiance's father and fiance puts two and two together. Eventually bringing her to his city under the false pretense of reunion. Fiance and his mother decide to have her killed but the future child presents a problem. His mother decides they should lock her away until the child is born, then kill her.

She escapes and is recaptured by the right people. He has her brought to her. He's already under a lot of pressure at the moment and the last thing he needs is another complication, and he knows nothing about the circumstances of his sister's death and the stolen item.