God, so awful. Sorry, Allyson.
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erikaj - Aug 06, 2009 8:26:14 am PDT #1969 of 6690
Always Anti-fascist!
Allyson - Aug 06, 2009 8:37:36 am PDT #1970 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I'm a greedy backstabber who would never have gotten this far without him.
Friendship over.
I feel awful. I stood my ground, but it couldn't have gone any worse than it did.
Barb - Aug 06, 2009 8:39:12 am PDT #1971 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”
I'm a greedy backstabber who would never have gotten this far without him.
Okay, wait-- he wrote three chapters out of ten that he then didn't work on for nearly a year?
EPIC FAIL on his part.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2009 8:42:52 am PDT #1972 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
It's on my part, too. I should have recognized it earlier. I didn't. His feelings are terribly hurt and he's lashing out.
But the appropriate response to a massive rewrite is never "(Agent Kate) is just one opinion, why do we have to make changes?"
Gudanov - Aug 06, 2009 8:45:13 am PDT #1973 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping
Okay, wait-- he wrote three chapters out of ten that he then didn't work on for nearly a year?
Yes, exactly.
I don't know a lot about publishing, but I'm pretty sure that your agent is not just one opinion.
Laura - Aug 06, 2009 8:45:16 am PDT #1974 of 6690
Our wings are not tired.
I'm sorry, Allyson. The conversation had to happen to go forward. I hope he sees things differently after time passes.
Allyson - Aug 06, 2009 8:47:40 am PDT #1975 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
And you know, this book might not find a publisher, anyway. I'll just be happier with the end product when it's done my way, even if I self-publish it.
Beverly - Aug 06, 2009 8:48:48 am PDT #1976 of 6690
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Would you like me to answer that question? Seriously, I'm making the offer. He doesn't have to like me, and I can be completely honest and tell him why. I'll do it, just say the word.
You are the grownup here, and that sucks sometimes. You're also in the right, and he's wrong. And seriously immature. I'm sorry he's not taking it well, but he's shown a complete lack of responsibility for the investment he supposedly made--and should have made and didn't. I'm sorry you're in the middle of this particular part of his growing up. You're marvelous and I love you and I'm sorry.
JoeCrow - Aug 06, 2009 8:52:50 am PDT #1977 of 6690
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson
I'm a greedy backstabber who would never have gotten this far without him.
Oh, fuck a BUNCH of that noise. He drops out for a year, and you're riding HIS coattails? Where'd I put my cluebat?
Sorry you're going through this, Allyson.
Barb - Aug 06, 2009 8:54:46 am PDT #1978 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”
But the appropriate response to a massive rewrite is never "(Agent Kate) is just one opinion, why do we have to make changes?"
Oh, educating someone on the basics of publishing is never fun. But you know, she's your agent, not his. Kate's not going to send it out unless it she's happy with it. So he can stick to his righteous guns and have a manuscript that sits and gathers dust or he can put on his big boy panties and understand that publishing isn't easy or fair and it most assuredly doesn't cater to tender feelings and whimsies.
Not that I have strong feelings on the subject or anything.