A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.

Wash ,'The Message'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Barb - Aug 04, 2009 12:30:47 pm PDT #1939 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”

My experience working with other writers has been that the ones who think that they do a good job and that every word they write is golden are not very good writers and a pain to work with.

Well, yeah. ::wry grin::

But I still stand by my "publishing's stupid" statement. At least, until I get another contract, IF that ever happens.


Gudanov - Aug 04, 2009 12:32:45 pm PDT #1940 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

My experience working with other writers has been that the ones who think that they do a good job and that every word they write is golden are not very good writers

I think I barely have a clue what I'm doing, so maybe there's hope for me.


Allyson - Aug 04, 2009 12:35:04 pm PDT #1941 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

There's nothing in writing. Emails, but no signed contract. And it was dependent on him writing usable shit. Since I'm culling it...

I just feel awful having to do this. He worked hard and he's a good guy. He's just not a good writer.

I don't feel like much of one, either, right now. But there is the excitement of taking Sam racing through the Chunnel and emerging in Paris.


erikaj - Aug 04, 2009 12:35:34 pm PDT #1942 of 6690
Always Anti-fascist!

For today, I suck. But tomorrow is another, and all that Scarlett bullshit.


Amy - Aug 04, 2009 12:36:24 pm PDT #1943 of 6690
Because books.

I think that's kind of a broad statement, too, Ginger. I don't believe every word I write is golden, and I know there are times when I need to do better, but I do think I'm pretty good at what I do. That said, I always know I'm not the next Virginia Woolf or whatever, so.

A little confidence is a good thing. But feeling doubt about what you've written, especially when you're very close to it, and haven't had a chance to put it away and not look at it for a while, is entirely natural.


Amy - Aug 04, 2009 12:38:15 pm PDT #1944 of 6690
Because books.

There's nothing in writing. Emails, but no signed contract. And it was dependent on him writing usable shit. Since I'm culling it...

As long as you can tell him *why* (in concrete terms) his contribution isn't usable, then you should be good. I'm guessing this isn't someone who would have the means to sue anyway, so.

And hey, sometimes things don't work out. It happens. If he really want to write, he might as well learn it now.


Barb - Aug 04, 2009 12:50:03 pm PDT #1945 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”

I think, too, there's a pretty wide gulf between thinking you're a good writer and thinking every word is golden. I mean, in my more lucid, clear-headed moments I know that I'm both good at what I do and still have a ton to learn. It's part of the fun, actually-- learning the new stuff. And there's also a pretty big divide between taking every editorial suggestion offered and knowing when to stick to your creative instincts.

However, the ones who think every word is golden... I dearly wish they would get struck with the clue stick.


Allyson - Aug 04, 2009 12:52:38 pm PDT #1946 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If the word "sue" comes out of his mouth, I'll yank the whole book. It'd break my heart, but I won't hesitate to burn it. I have another two books I'm working on, and I'd be happy to publish a tiny thing every couple of years. Vampire People made back its money, and still sells a bit, my editor at Sourcebooks liked working with me, and I'm gaining a little bit of a following in the science blogosphere.

I'm confident I'll be able to sell again. I'd hate to have to discard this book, but I won't be threatened. I guess, mostly, I'm just worried about hurting his feelings.


Scrappy - Aug 04, 2009 12:56:06 pm PDT #1947 of 6690
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

He may also feel a bit relieved, Allyson. I think the busy-ness is partly because he KNOWS he's not a writer and doesn't want to let you or the book down but also doesn't want to deal with the whole thing. When we let employees go they might be (understandably) sad at losing their job, but sometimes they are also glad they are finally free from working at a job they know they are unsuited for.


Ginger - Aug 04, 2009 12:59:51 pm PDT #1948 of 6690
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I don't think I phrased that well. (Why do people hire me, anyway?) I meant that the people who don't have self doubts about their writing are generally not the best writers. I happen to think I'm a decent writer, but that doesn't keep me from times of thinking it all sucks.

The ones who think every word is golden are the new writers, who almost literally bleed when I whack off their flowery but unnecessary first paragraphs, and Anne Rice.