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The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Barb - Apr 17, 2009 6:01:14 pm PDT #1440 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”

But Typo, she wasn't saying that she'd read McCarthy because he was a better writer than Rowling, just simply because he wrote books for adults and she was an adult.

She used one avatar to dismiss an entire genre, her argument being that YA books were good for kids, but that adults needed to "challenge" themselves further.

And she made this entire argument while openly stating that she hadn't read any YA novels since she was a kid. I mean, talk about brass ones.


Gudanov - Apr 17, 2009 6:39:45 pm PDT #1441 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

She used one avatar to dismiss an entire genre, her argument being that YA books were good for kids, but that adults needed to "challenge" themselves further.

Is it wrong that I don't want to be challenged when I read? I want to be entertained. If I had loads of time to read, maybe I would want to be challenged some of the time. But I don't. In order to write, I have given up a number of things including reading.

I don't really rank authors I read, there I books I enjoy and books I don't. I like them for different reasons usually, so I have a hard time coming up with rank.

Then there are books that I regret having liked. Typically these are series where I like the first book or two and by book three or four I have achieved retroactive dislike.


Barb - Apr 17, 2009 6:44:10 pm PDT #1442 of 6690
“Not dead yet!”

Is it wrong that I don't want to be challenged when I read? I want to be entertained.

Nope. Not wrong at all. I think that's what most people want out of reading and why genre fiction is actually enjoying a surge in sales right now. I know I get so freakin' sick and tired of people who equate "good" literature with books that you have to work to read and that leave you wanting to slit your wrists.

I read to lose myself in another world-- same reason I write.

Guess that makes me cheap and commercial-- I'm good with that.


Typo Boy - Apr 17, 2009 11:03:02 pm PDT #1443 of 6690
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But Typo, she wasn't saying that she'd read McCarthy because he was a better writer than Rowling, just simply because he wrote books for adults and she was an adult.

Sure that is why my note was a side note. No disagreement on the main point. Dissing whole genre's is assholeness. Her reasons for preferring McCarthy to Rowling were assholeish. Just was making a side observation peripheral to the main discussion that I don't enjoy Rowling as much as I enjoy a lot of other writers.


Allyson - Apr 20, 2009 3:48:28 am PDT #1444 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I know I get so freakin' sick and tired of people who equate "good" literature with books that you have to work to read and that leave you wanting to slit your wrists.

Kat calls these books "broccoli." Like, they're good for you, but a hot fudge sundae is way yummier.


Gudanov - Apr 20, 2009 6:02:12 am PDT #1445 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

Almost knocked out chapter 4 this weekend. It is taking longer than action packed chapter 3, but there is a lot of important set up stuff. Stuff that will become important much, much later in the story.


Gudanov - Apr 20, 2009 8:56:55 am PDT #1446 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

Hmmm... So far with four chapters my chapter length has remained bizarrely consistent even though I haven't trying to do that. Interpolating the various story events to chapters gives me about thirty chapters. Taking the average of the first four chapters and multiplying that by 30 gives me about 500 word processor pages. Gulp. I've got about 64 pages right now.


Amy - Apr 20, 2009 10:10:27 am PDT #1447 of 6690
Because books.

It always helps me to break it down that way, Gud, but if it seems intimidating, just forget that part! Also, it might not work that way, in practice, so.

Excellent progress, though!


Gudanov - Apr 20, 2009 12:32:58 pm PDT #1448 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

It's not really all that intimidating, it's just one part at a time. Breaking it up into guesstimated chapters actually helped make it all seem more doable. I have a pretty good idea of what generally happens in each of my guesstimated chapters, so I don't feel like I'm going to get stuck anywhere.


Amy - Apr 20, 2009 12:41:25 pm PDT #1449 of 6690
Because books.

Breaking it up into guesstimated chapters actually helped make it all seem more doable.

That's the way it always works for me.