Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - May 17, 2008 12:18:29 pm PDT #7514 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I went out and experienced the good weather, although I didn't enjoy it as I probably should have. I am more hung over than I thought. And than I should be! I didn't drink that much last night, but I guess I didn't eat much, either. Ugh. I did walk around and did errands, so that's good.


brenda m - May 17, 2008 12:59:54 pm PDT #7515 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Happy Birthday Vortex!

Are we still talking religion? 'Cause I saw a guy downtown today wearing a t-shirt that said "Jesus made me Kosher." What does that even mean??


Hil R. - May 17, 2008 1:08:08 pm PDT #7516 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I don't know what that means. My best guess is it's some Messianic thing.

In odd t-shirts, I some someone today wearing a shirt that said "Liberalism Breeds Terrorism" on the front and "Terrorism Breeds Liberalism" on the back.


brenda m - May 17, 2008 1:10:06 pm PDT #7517 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I resisted saying "Wouldn't that depend on how Jesus slaughtered you?" but it was a near thing.


Susan W. - May 17, 2008 1:10:51 pm PDT #7518 of 10001
The wide universe is the ocean I travel, and the earth is my blue boat home

Probably Jews for Jesus or a similar organization, and I think the theological concept behind it is kosher in the broader sense of pure/clean--translated into, say, Baptist, it would be "Jesus cleansed me from my sins."

t /ex-fundamentalist


brenda m - May 17, 2008 1:15:40 pm PDT #7519 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. In that case it seems kind of assholish confrontational.


dcp - May 17, 2008 1:21:54 pm PDT #7520 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

I went to a Civil War re-enactment today. Had a good time, didn't get too sunburned, and took a bunch of pictures: [link]

There was a Union camp, a Confederate camp, a civilian camp, and sutlers area. They seem to take their costuming pretty seriously, and there were some interesting historical/modern contrasts as the re-enactors and the spectators milled about together.


billytea - May 17, 2008 1:47:58 pm PDT #7521 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Amusingly, the first cite I found for this was on an ultraconservative pre-Vatican II bitter hardcore website ranting about the ghastly moral relativism of it all.

I would just like to mention how impressed I am that these guys made a website pre-Vatican II. That shows real foresight.

Are we still talking religion? 'Cause I saw a guy downtown today wearing a t-shirt that said "Jesus made me Kosher." What does that even mean??

It means he's edible! Or, possibly, that thanks to Jesus, he's no longer one of the following:

A capitalist pig.
An imperialist running dog.
Eddie Rabbitt.


Scrappy - May 17, 2008 1:56:06 pm PDT #7522 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

hey BT! I am going to see an fine antipodean group tonight--Crowded House. I know they are NZ and not Aussie, but still from that neck of the woods.


billytea - May 17, 2008 2:08:46 pm PDT #7523 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

hey BT! I am going to see an fine antipodean group tonight--Crowded House. I know they are NZ and not Aussie, but still from that neck of the woods.

Good stuff! Actually, while Neil Finn is a Kiwi (and Tim Finn when he was in the band), the other two musicians in the original line-up (Nick Seymour and Paul Hester) are Australian (were in Hester's case, he killed himself in 2005). I think the new line-up has a couple of Americans in it too.