Don't kill anyone if you don't have to. We're here to make a deal.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - May 12, 2008 6:06:32 pm PDT #6429 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wallybee lived in Chengdu until she was 12.

Does she have family there, bt?

It's worrisome.


brenda m - May 12, 2008 6:11:32 pm PDT #6430 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ugh, I can't imagine how she's feeling.


billytea - May 12, 2008 6:24:39 pm PDT #6431 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Does she have family there, bt?

No, her (uni-educated) parents were both sent to Chengdu from Shanghai as part of a policy to develop the hinterland (and to keep possible bourgeois elements out of the way). Sent separately, they met there, which is kind of cool. All her family is back around Shanghai or Zhejiang province. But Wallybee called home anyway, given the shocks could be felt over most of the country.

Ugh, I can't imagine how she's feeling.

Yeah, she's been clocking a lot of time on the Chinese news sites.


amych - May 12, 2008 6:32:56 pm PDT #6432 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I was talking to one of my coworkers today who spent the summer after she got married in Chengdu -- not even anywhere near spending her childhood, and yet she was just about in shock over it. I'm sure it's a hundred times worse for Wallybee. Much love coming her way.


Susan W. - May 12, 2008 7:00:17 pm PDT #6433 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I've used SparkPeople. I found the food tracking section to be well configured.

That's what I liked about it--I actually like it better than WeightWatchers, because it's almost as easy to use and gives you a lot more information to analyze your diet.


Burrell - May 12, 2008 7:31:46 pm PDT #6434 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I was really upset about the news from China. 7.9, that's unfathomable to me. And yeah, what sarameg was saying about Burma too. So scary.


meara - May 12, 2008 7:45:32 pm PDT #6435 of 10001

OMG, am I reading this article right?? They're going to ban clove cigarettes???


Burrell - May 12, 2008 7:55:43 pm PDT #6436 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I was under the impression that clove cigarettes didn't have tobacco in them. I guess that's wrong?


Vortex - May 12, 2008 8:31:29 pm PDT #6437 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I was under the impression that clove cigarettes didn't have tobacco in them. I guess that's wrong?

well, perhaps the idea is that they will ban the flavored stuff so that they won't move on to cigarettes with tobacco. Of course, it would be like banning wine coolers, so the kids won't move on to booze.


Sean K - May 12, 2008 9:14:53 pm PDT #6438 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I was under the impression that clove cigarettes didn't have tobacco in them. I guess that's wrong?

There are some that are pure clove, and some that are clove blended with tobacco.