I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.

Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - May 08, 2008 8:18:10 am PDT #5591 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Muppets Debate Clinton vs. Obama

World-famous puppet "roommates" Bert and Ernie have a heated political discussion in which Obama emerges the victor, suggesting rumors of faltering gay support for Hillary Clinton are more than just rumors.


msbelle - May 08, 2008 8:21:03 am PDT #5592 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't want the muppets discussing candidates and choosing sides!

HC's comment just read too much like "hey poor to middle class whites with possible racial issues - stick with me."


Kat - May 08, 2008 8:26:20 am PDT #5593 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

This article about tabloids covering Obama and Clinton is depressing as shit. To wit:

“You can’t get much better drama than what we’re seeing on the campaign trail,” said Charles Lachman, the executive producer of “Inside Edition,” the syndicated entertainment newsmagazine. “It’s the greatest reality show on television.”

I can't put my finger on why it bugs so much. I mean, I guess there is the almost inherent confusion of reality vs. reality TV. But ugh.

During the 2004 campaign, editors hardly paid attention to Senator John Kerry or President Bush. Ms. Min of US Weekly said she ran a single spread about a celebrity fund-raiser for Mr. Kerry. “That was about as large as we went in terms of covering that campaign,” she said. “Covering John Kerry just felt not so fun.”

Yep. The fun factor. That's why we have the bozo we do for president right now.


Daisy Jane - May 08, 2008 8:28:32 am PDT #5594 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Because real issues are affecting real people and that jackass is acting like something that touches peoples lives in a very real way is entertainment?


Susan W. - May 08, 2008 8:30:17 am PDT #5595 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, college graduates are elitists, so we don't matter.

Yeah, and I'm an elitist who went to a caucus instead of voting in a primary, so I'm double-plus insignificant.


Emily - May 08, 2008 8:31:28 am PDT #5596 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

To be fair, Obama's cuter than John Kerry. And tabloids thrive on "she's cracking up!" covers, so having a female candidate is like candy to them.


Allyson - May 08, 2008 8:34:58 am PDT #5597 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Thanks, msbelle. I'm just so offended on a personal level.

I lived there for 7 years! And the thing is? They didn't clean my apartment. They painted (as they had to do), and put in hardwood floors and new tile, as they do in between each tenant that lived there before they purchased the building. They also put in a new toilet, which they had to do since mine was like from 1962 and required constant maintenance.

My deposit was $600, Kat.


Kat - May 08, 2008 8:35:47 am PDT #5598 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Okay, but THIS from the article does crack me up:

And the gossip-magazine editors appear to hold the cards most of the time.When President Bill Clinton submitted an essay for publication in US, it did not pass muster with Ms. Min.

“It was the magazine equivalent of watching C-Span,” she recalled, a slight shudder in her voice. “I was a little mortified to do it, but we kicked it back to the president for a revise.”


Vortex - May 08, 2008 8:36:37 am PDT #5599 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Cross posted to music, but Nine Inch Nails if offering the new album for free download here [link]


Kat - May 08, 2008 8:37:15 am PDT #5600 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Allyson, are you going to fight to get the deposit back? Because is that equivalent to the amount that they didn't pay for utilities that your lease says they were supposed to pay?