Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.

Gunn ,'Power Play'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


aurelia - May 06, 2008 5:12:45 pm PDT #5233 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

My best costume student is male and it is remarked on a lot.

Yeah, that's still pretty notable. Even more so than male nurses. I have worked with several male costume designers, but haven't encountered very many male stitchers.

In my field, the fact that [snip] it was all women and one guy was remarkable.

Ah. The "only." That's a similar issue that's been rolling around in my brain.

I do admit taking great pleasure in putting together an all female crew (many years ago) when I received a rider that specified "young, strong men" for the local crew. The roadies never said a word about it.


Kat - May 06, 2008 5:14:40 pm PDT #5234 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Like the light switch kind? We have an extra, sara.

I am so tired my teeth hurt. And the plumber SUCKS. he was here at 9 AM yesterday and then left until, I kid you not, 9 PM. When he didn't resolve the problem (there were roots). He said someone needed to come back today with other equipment (plus a scope) to finish the job. And while there is machinery in the sideyard, there is no plumber and now it's dark so, I guess, a scope won't really help.

FILLED WITH HATE for this man.


sarameg - May 06, 2008 5:17:14 pm PDT #5235 of 10001

I have no idea what a tiger team is. Which is probably why I hate the term. I think it is for cases when a problem pops up and you have to impromptuly attack it aggressively and a new plan pops up. Not a project thought out well in advance.

But that's my understanding. May be complete BS.

And WHY has MK embraced the "push things off" philosophy, damnit???


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 5:23:15 pm PDT #5236 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hey. Made it to the ER. Happy happy joy joy. Sitting in the loud and brightly lit corridor. Kick in, happy meds! Make like Calgon.


sarameg - May 06, 2008 5:23:22 pm PDT #5237 of 10001

Plumbing issues fill me with dread.

I'll get a timer when... I probably don't need one. So you can save yours, Kat, until you need it.

I want project teams to be of all the best people, unspecific. But because of all sorts of society shit, that often ends up white male. When it doesn't, folks notice because it was the default for so long. It's progress, but... I'd kinda like to not be the novelty, but de facto. eta: For god's sake, I am 32. My baby gifts were ERA onesies and baby blankets. You'd like to think there'd been more progress. Then you look at history, and..well, at least I'd had the vote before that, which is more than some can say...Fuck. Cranky again.


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 5:27:45 pm PDT #5238 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I often ended up teaching with the other black teachers and I wonder how that looks from out on the street-three black people teaching Israeli kick ass.

Never felt a female parallel.


Kat - May 06, 2008 5:30:30 pm PDT #5239 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Yet there is progress and quite a bit. More in attitude, probably, than in pay checks.

My hate for the plumber is HUGE. Sigh. We can't do dishes. Can't flush the toilet . Can't give the baby a bath or take one ourselves. Can't do a load of laundry which is problematic as the baby is almost out of diapers.

And it's not the landlord's fault as he has been calling the plumber. It's the plumber himself. I'm trying, unsuccessfully, not to be irked. But seriously? I'm IRKED.

I need to shower. Enough already.


Laura - May 06, 2008 5:46:22 pm PDT #5240 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I hate Kat's plumber.

When we started our business 20 years ago ALL my customers were men. Every single person I spoke with in tech related areas, male. No longer the case at all. Still 75% or so when I get to the head tech type person, but the general person in the office that talks computer is often a woman. I do have to say that even 20 years ago I almost never encountered resistance because I was a woman. It is amazing how desperate people are when their computers don't work.


Pix - May 06, 2008 6:05:55 pm PDT #5241 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

ita, I'm so sorry you're back in the ER.

Kat, I will hate your plumber if you hate the guys who put up a new trellis and gate in our yard and then left the gate half finished (you can't latch it closed) and dropping off the hinges so we can't open the it without it getting stuck in the concrete patio and also enclosed the trellises in cheap wooden frames that warped and have consequently allowed the actual trellises to fall half out. Grr. I hate shoddy workmanship.


Ginger - May 06, 2008 6:10:17 pm PDT #5242 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Having an online chat session with a RoadRunner.com guy who thinks that I should address google.com being a non-existing domain by changing my account preferences so I won't get that message anymore.

Yeah, you can also stop that annoying smoke detector noise by taking out the battery or by passing out from smoke inhalation, whichever comes first.

I wish you and the ER could be strangers, ita.

I'm always irritated by people pointing out an all-female or all-minority work group. It reminds me of Samuel Johnson's "A woman preaching is like a dog walking on his hind legs. It is not done well but you are surprised to find it done at all."

A tiger team is a team put together to solve a specific problem, usually working outside the usual corporate structure.