Dawn: You're not fleeing. You're... moving at a brisk pace. Buffy: Quaintly referred to in some cultures as the Big Scaredy Run Away.

'Touched'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - May 06, 2008 4:43:32 pm PDT #5228 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

My best costume student is male and it is remarked on a lot.


megan walker - May 06, 2008 5:02:31 pm PDT #5229 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

If a team for a project happens to be made up entirely of men, do people normally feel a need to point that out? I just did a show with an all female tech team and a few times someone brought up the "all-girl" or "all-women" thing.

This doesn't seem weird to me, but, then again, a couple of women in my office feel the need to point out whenever people are wearing similar colors. Like we're in high school or something.


sarameg - May 06, 2008 5:03:08 pm PDT #5230 of 10001

In my field, the fact that when we put together a tiger team (I hate that term for no explicable reason) on a project, it was all women and one guy was remarkable. However, this (broader) field has been dealing with gender issue (incl. litigation) for a while, despite the numbers being better than some others. Hell, in my interviews over a decade ago, I was told I "wouldn't last because girls don't" by some ass. To my great delight, he got eliminated just 10 years to retirement in a layoff. From a specialized enough position that it was hard for him to find work. Yeah, I'm cold. But though I knew the attitudes were there, 22 year old me hadn't been slapped in the face with it like that ever before. I'm still cranky. And I'm still there, with a promotion. Ass.

So to say.. sometimes it is noteworthy. It's a little annoying because you'd like to think it shouldn't be, but...it's still an issue in so many places.


Kat - May 06, 2008 5:11:06 pm PDT #5231 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

What's a tiger team? I think a tigger team might be more fun.


sarameg - May 06, 2008 5:12:17 pm PDT #5232 of 10001

ION non feminism news, I have to be up for another 2 hours. To plug in a crockpot. On the balcony (it is bbq pork and while it smells nice when I eat it, I can't stand the smell otherwise.) I want to sleep now. I should have bought a programmable timer.

Damnit.


aurelia - May 06, 2008 5:12:45 pm PDT #5233 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

My best costume student is male and it is remarked on a lot.

Yeah, that's still pretty notable. Even more so than male nurses. I have worked with several male costume designers, but haven't encountered very many male stitchers.

In my field, the fact that [snip] it was all women and one guy was remarkable.

Ah. The "only." That's a similar issue that's been rolling around in my brain.

I do admit taking great pleasure in putting together an all female crew (many years ago) when I received a rider that specified "young, strong men" for the local crew. The roadies never said a word about it.


Kat - May 06, 2008 5:14:40 pm PDT #5234 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Like the light switch kind? We have an extra, sara.

I am so tired my teeth hurt. And the plumber SUCKS. he was here at 9 AM yesterday and then left until, I kid you not, 9 PM. When he didn't resolve the problem (there were roots). He said someone needed to come back today with other equipment (plus a scope) to finish the job. And while there is machinery in the sideyard, there is no plumber and now it's dark so, I guess, a scope won't really help.

FILLED WITH HATE for this man.


sarameg - May 06, 2008 5:17:14 pm PDT #5235 of 10001

I have no idea what a tiger team is. Which is probably why I hate the term. I think it is for cases when a problem pops up and you have to impromptuly attack it aggressively and a new plan pops up. Not a project thought out well in advance.

But that's my understanding. May be complete BS.

And WHY has MK embraced the "push things off" philosophy, damnit???


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 5:23:15 pm PDT #5236 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hey. Made it to the ER. Happy happy joy joy. Sitting in the loud and brightly lit corridor. Kick in, happy meds! Make like Calgon.


sarameg - May 06, 2008 5:23:22 pm PDT #5237 of 10001

Plumbing issues fill me with dread.

I'll get a timer when... I probably don't need one. So you can save yours, Kat, until you need it.

I want project teams to be of all the best people, unspecific. But because of all sorts of society shit, that often ends up white male. When it doesn't, folks notice because it was the default for so long. It's progress, but... I'd kinda like to not be the novelty, but de facto. eta: For god's sake, I am 32. My baby gifts were ERA onesies and baby blankets. You'd like to think there'd been more progress. Then you look at history, and..well, at least I'd had the vote before that, which is more than some can say...Fuck. Cranky again.