Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Apr 29, 2008 5:47:15 pm PDT #4184 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

meara, you can mix a great tinted moisturizer with a few drops of foundation into your own regular moisturizer. It's cheaper and works better than commercially prepared, and you can adjust based on how much coverage you need.

When I need a tinted moisturizer, I use a small amount of mineral foundation mixed into my moisturizer, and it is perfect.


Trudy Booth - Apr 29, 2008 5:54:35 pm PDT #4185 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Any thoughts on rejuvinating my Dior Show, Plei?


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 5:57:29 pm PDT #4186 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Jesse:

What's the stat for whitey?

White females no high school diploma $18,100
white females w/ high school diploma $25,100
white females w/ college degree $37,500
white females w/ grad or professional degree $40,000

White males no high school diploma $25,400
white males w/ high school diploma $34,200
white males w/ college degree $46,900
white males w/ grad or professional degree $50,100

For contrast:

Black females no high school diploma $20,200
Black females w/ high school diploma $21,500
Black females w/ college degree $36,500
black females w/ grad or professional degree $39,000

Black males no high school diploma $24,200
Black males w/ high school diploma $24,800
Black males w/ college degree $38,800
Black males w/ grad or professional degree $40,800

Hispanic females no high school diploma $16,000
Hispanic females w/ high school diploma $23,100
Hispanic females w/ college degree $36,300
Hispanic females w/ grad or professional degree $38,200

Hispanic males no high school diploma $21,700
Hispanic males w/ high school diploma $24,800
Hispanic males w/ college degree $46,400
Hispanic males w/ grad or professional degree $49,400

ita,

How uninspiring! As well as the white man's numbers, I'd like to see how a college education plays into that. I mean, if the high school graduate numbers include college grads and the difference is still only $600, why go into all that debt?

Hell, though. Even more significant in my mind, if you don't plan on going to college, and you are a black male, why bother finishing high school at all for that extra $600 when you can drop out and have two more years of work.

The difference w/ a college degree is significant (as seen above)

I can see that. The job options for being only a high school grad are going to be pretty similar to somebody who drops out. Some kind of labor or retail position.

David, yes and no. As you can see, with other groups (especially hispanic females, but also white females and males) there is a big difference between a high school grad and not.

What made me laugh is that sample sizes for Asian males without a high school diploma are too small to allow reliable reporting.


Kristen - Apr 29, 2008 5:59:06 pm PDT #4187 of 10001

Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:04:24 pm PDT #4188 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm noting all of the makeup recs. I want to even out skin tone and minimize some scarring. What would I use? And why, oh why can I never find a color match?


Consuela - Apr 29, 2008 6:05:32 pm PDT #4189 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I gotta say I'm pretty appalled at the male-female differences in a lot of theses. Women with advanced degrees make ten thousand dollars less than men with advanced degrees. Ouch.

... wait, unless you're a black male with an advanced degree. Who makes nine thousand dollars less than a hispanic male. WTF? How's that work?


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:10:02 pm PDT #4190 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

'suela, I'm not sure.

If it makes anyone feel better, it's not whitey that makes the most.

Asian males no high school diploma NO DATA
Asian males w/ high school diploma $26,500
Asian males w/ college degree $51,300
Asian males w/ grad or professional degree $54,100

It must be the types of work these groups are also going into. I wish the College Board had statistics by major. For example, I would guess that math majors and engineering majors make significantly more than English majors. And I know many more male math/engineering types than female. So that could account for some of the gender (and ethnicity) differences.

eta The full study is here in the sidebar called Education Pays. (though it should be called Higher Education Pays.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 29, 2008 6:24:12 pm PDT #4191 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Well, as a white female with a english lit and theatre degree, it seems to qualify you for being well-ish paid secretary or working in the arts. Although, my friends with math and engineering degrees are stay at home moms... I am not sure if the effects the average.


dcp - Apr 29, 2008 6:31:21 pm PDT #4192 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Toddler picspam of one of my cousins this weekend.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:48:50 pm PDT #4193 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The one where the kid is staring at the flower? Lovely!