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Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kristen - Apr 29, 2008 5:59:06 pm PDT #4187 of 10001

Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:04:24 pm PDT #4188 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm noting all of the makeup recs. I want to even out skin tone and minimize some scarring. What would I use? And why, oh why can I never find a color match?


Consuela - Apr 29, 2008 6:05:32 pm PDT #4189 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I gotta say I'm pretty appalled at the male-female differences in a lot of theses. Women with advanced degrees make ten thousand dollars less than men with advanced degrees. Ouch.

... wait, unless you're a black male with an advanced degree. Who makes nine thousand dollars less than a hispanic male. WTF? How's that work?


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:10:02 pm PDT #4190 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

'suela, I'm not sure.

If it makes anyone feel better, it's not whitey that makes the most.

Asian males no high school diploma NO DATA
Asian males w/ high school diploma $26,500
Asian males w/ college degree $51,300
Asian males w/ grad or professional degree $54,100

It must be the types of work these groups are also going into. I wish the College Board had statistics by major. For example, I would guess that math majors and engineering majors make significantly more than English majors. And I know many more male math/engineering types than female. So that could account for some of the gender (and ethnicity) differences.

eta The full study is here in the sidebar called Education Pays. (though it should be called Higher Education Pays.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 29, 2008 6:24:12 pm PDT #4191 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Well, as a white female with a english lit and theatre degree, it seems to qualify you for being well-ish paid secretary or working in the arts. Although, my friends with math and engineering degrees are stay at home moms... I am not sure if the effects the average.


dcp - Apr 29, 2008 6:31:21 pm PDT #4192 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Toddler picspam of one of my cousins this weekend.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:48:50 pm PDT #4193 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The one where the kid is staring at the flower? Lovely!


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 7:02:16 pm PDT #4194 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm interested in what's behind the difference between white females with no high school diploma and black females with no high school diploma. The black women are earning $2000 more.

(Stats about degrees get weird when you look at people with math degrees. It's one of the only fields -- I think computer science is one of the others -- where, on average, people with just a bachelor's degree earn more than people with an advanced degree.)


DavidS - Apr 29, 2008 7:34:38 pm PDT #4195 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

David, yes and no. As you can see, with other groups (especially hispanic females, but also white females and males) there is a big difference between a high school grad and not.

Yeah, those are interesting numbers. I would not have guessed Hispanic females without a H.S. diploma would be the lowest on the economic totem pole.

And white guys with a H.S. diploma make almost as much as a black female with a college degree. I'll have a side of pie with my male white privilege.


Burrell - Apr 29, 2008 7:41:06 pm PDT #4196 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Those stats are fascinating. Guess it pays to be male.