Hey! What a surprise! Hostile 17! Can I get you a drink, Hostile 17?

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Apr 29, 2008 7:03:03 am PDT #4014 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But I do have approximately the same amount of gray in my hair as Jamie Lee Curtis.

Since my hair stayed blonde, I won't know how much gray hair I have until it outnumbers the blonde. Plus it'll probably go white, which would be cool. Or silver, even, which is what my dad's hair did.

My stylist says that I don't have any gray/white/silver yet, and I'm choosing to believe her. God knows I can't see any when I look in the mirror. It'll probably all turn all at once, like overnight.


tommyrot - Apr 29, 2008 7:03:20 am PDT #4015 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Gay Couple's Kiss Sparks 911 Call in Alabama

It's a video, which I haven't watched.


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 7:10:56 am PDT #4016 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The idea of Miley having sex bothers me much less than the idea of people making money off her sexual image.

Yes. This. Sexuality is enough to try to figure out as a teenager, without having adults commodifying it.

I've been getting more grey hair lately, which shows up really obviously against my dark brown. Really hate it. Thinking about henna.


Fred Pete - Apr 29, 2008 7:13:50 am PDT #4017 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Fred's drivel on the whole thing --

I haven't seen the Miley Cyrus photos and don't want to. Our niece is a big Hannah Montana fan. I've heard multiple descriptions of the photos. And the controversy feels manufactured by the folks that make their living out of saying that the country is going to the dogs.

If you're 15, you're thinking about sex. And wanting to explore the possibilities. A posed photo shoot for a national magazine raises issues to me that more candid snaps from paparazzi wouldn't -- even if the photos show the same thing. I'm not sure why -- maybe because the posed shoot is intended for public consumption while the paparazzi photos aren't.

Britney Spears was selling sex pretty much from "Baby One More Time." She just did it with a teasing innocent that, for those of us not particularly vulnerable to her charms, came across as extremely calculated and cynical even by the standards of pop culture.

And I'm not the expert because I don't have a daughter, but I'd probably okay a 12-year-old wearing a little makeup for a truly special occasion. A 15-year-old, almost certainly -- again, for special occasions. (Example: If she's in a wedding party, she deserves to look like a young woman.)

Not that this seems to add up to a coherent opinion,.


tommyrot - Apr 29, 2008 7:15:42 am PDT #4018 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

If you're 15, you're thinking about sex.

I didn't really start thinking about sex until I was 16.

Yeah, I think I hit puberty a bit later than most boys....


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 7:18:16 am PDT #4019 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

In other news of the weird: Farmers Wants a Wife? I guess it's only doable to do this as a reality show if the farmer resembles an abercrombie model.


Amy - Apr 29, 2008 7:19:03 am PDT #4020 of 10001
Because books.

And I'm not the expert because I don't have a daughter, but I'd probably okay a 12-year-old wearing a little makeup for a truly special occasion.

Working at the mall, I see a lot of girls in the 12-15 range wearing makeup. Which is the thing with girls that age -- mom may not okay it, but if mom isn't with you, it's a whole different story.


tommyrot - Apr 29, 2008 7:19:20 am PDT #4021 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is this the most amazing thing ever? Or not?

[link]

...high-heeled shoes that easily transform from wobbly 3.25-inch stilettos to practical pumps with 1.5-inch heels


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 7:23:21 am PDT #4022 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Is this the most amazing thing ever? Or not?

I think they look kind of ugly in the low-heel mode.


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2008 7:23:22 am PDT #4023 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to have no grey hair. That would show up like thin patches in my stubble, I guess. I haven't had the energy to bleach it again since my cutting snafu a few months ago.

The guy that collapsed yesterday was 62 years old. He immediately made me feel very protective of my parents, who are both a fair bit older. But they are in much better shape than he is. I'm so not prepared to deal with when they're not, but I figure I'm incredibly lucky that I have a mother that complains she does the aging for all the family and still looks good for 68. My dad's just a freak.

But I'm old too, dammit. I just hope not to be collapsing in the street.