Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Apr 23, 2008 3:32:09 am PDT #3118 of 10001
hip deep in pie

The more important question to ask about languages and color words is whether the culture thinks the differentiation is necessary between two colors.

That differentiation can be on a personal perceptual level. There are lots of purple/pink, purple/blue, yellow/green hues that I have had arguments with others about. Especially about the colour of tennis balls. I say they are green, everyone else seems to think they are yellow.


Ginger - Apr 23, 2008 3:46:46 am PDT #3119 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The Florida Marlins wore teal.

They won 2 World Series Championships faster than any other franchise.

Conclusion: Evil wins.

Then, when you stop spending a brazilian dollars on players, evil loses.

Somehow this seems like the wrong take-away message.

I like teal. The Marlins, not so much.


Nutty - Apr 23, 2008 3:52:54 am PDT #3120 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Tennis balls are tennis-ball colored. Also, they smell like something a preteen would inhale for the high.

People end up with such crazy wrong ideas about color. Like, most people would be aghast at the idea of the classical Greek statues being painted bright colors. That dignified, gently faded rustic antique from New Mexico? Used to be neon-colored! People did it that way on purpose!


billytea - Apr 23, 2008 3:54:37 am PDT #3121 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The colour thing is a nuisance in learning Mandarin. They do have separate words for blue and green, but then they have this whole other word that means blue and green. Or possibly black. So far I have not discerned any guiding principles for their use.


Fred Pete - Apr 23, 2008 4:11:02 am PDT #3122 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I haven't studied any languages where the word for "blue" and "green" are the same. Oh, and blue + green can also = turquoise.

English seems to have a bi-level treatment of color -- a generic word broken down into specifics. Example -- scarlet, crimson, and wine are all subsets of red.


Kat - Apr 23, 2008 4:15:31 am PDT #3123 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The language as perception thing makes sense, I guess. It's like being able to differentiate between types of lava. In English, you get lava. But in Hawaiian you have two different words because you know there are two types of lava. In English you'd need an extra modifier for when you noticed the difference.

Oh MAN, my stomach hurts. Enough that I've been up since 2 AM. It's like a giant ragey fist squeezing my innards. I do not like it, Sam I Am.


flea - Apr 23, 2008 4:16:00 am PDT #3124 of 10001
information libertarian

Greek - ancient and modern - has very different color words than English. Lots of nuance in the yellow-green-brown spectrum, little blue and red. (No, I can't give you any freaking examples, I am pulling this out of deep memory=my ass.)


Emily - Apr 23, 2008 4:28:07 am PDT #3125 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Like, most people would be aghast at the idea of the classical Greek statues being painted bright colors.

Yeah, the bright red lips on the Athena in Nashville's Parthenon were kind of a shock. Apparently Athena needed a colorist.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 23, 2008 4:56:06 am PDT #3126 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

OK, I have much hatred in my heart regarding the Open Source Boobie Project. SO MUCH.

GAH!!!!


Nutty - Apr 23, 2008 5:06:31 am PDT #3127 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Hey, is anybody else's gmail in a death spiral? Mine seems to be attempting to reload itself unto eternity, and will not cough up my mail.

Very irritating.