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Glory ,'Potential'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Apr 22, 2008 8:41:55 pm PDT #3102 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Baseball is evil too?


DavidS - Apr 22, 2008 8:43:44 pm PDT #3103 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Baseball is evil too?

Let's compare the carbon footprint of the World Series vs. the Indy 500 first...


Allyson - Apr 22, 2008 8:49:33 pm PDT #3104 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

woohoo!!! I just finished packing the wreck that was my desk. LaCie, Airport, printer, random stacks of paper and toner, CD-Rs, a million cables...everything but the laptop and router.

Next up: Dishes, then clothes. Then Friday lori comes over with Hank to take my bed to the new place!

Tomorrow my range and refrigerator are going to be delivered, so I'm going to bring all the cleaning supplies, toilet paper and paper towels, and measuring tape for to figure out what size blinds I need and whether I can rube goldberg a solution to getting my AC in the bedroom window.

Gah. I am SO BORING.


DavidS - Apr 22, 2008 8:54:37 pm PDT #3105 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gah. I am SO BORING.

Wasn't your bathroom collapsing on your head four hours ago?


Cass - Apr 22, 2008 8:57:33 pm PDT #3106 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Let's compare the carbon footprint of the World Series vs. the Indy 500 first...
Oh, my sport of choice is environmentally tragic. With a capital T.

I mean, it uses ethanol but that's not really saying a lot. But it's zoooooooooooomy. And zoomy is good to me. Unless it's a teal car.


Allyson - Apr 22, 2008 9:08:10 pm PDT #3107 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Yes! And someone will "look at it" tomorrow. I'm looking at it right now. Looking at it doesn't seem to fix it.


Typo Boy - Apr 22, 2008 9:20:37 pm PDT #3108 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I wonder if the carbon footprint of the world series and NASCAR are really that different. The biggest part of the footprint would be the fans driving to get there. Is it that different? Do NASCAR fans drive longer distances in bigger cars? Because if not, the 43 cars (do I remember the number right) are minor compared to the cars driven by the tens and hundreds of thousands in the stadium or at the track.


Cass - Apr 22, 2008 9:29:44 pm PDT #3109 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

the 43 cars
Gold star. Wait, I'm sorry. That should be the Cheerios Dodge star. (Yes, I had to look up a damn team that ran a yellow-ish livery. I am Buffista, I am pedantic.)

I *think* baseball has a bigger overall turnout in season and Nascar tops on per event turnout. But I kinda zone when they talk about it, so I am not certain.

The cars, whether in Nascar or Indy, are awful from an environmental standpoint but I am certain that they leave a much bigger carbon footprint just transporting people and equipment throughout a season. The freight is ... boggling, really.


Kristen - Apr 22, 2008 9:29:47 pm PDT #3110 of 10001

Do NASCAR fans drive longer distances in bigger cars?

Many of them do drive great distances in RVs and camp out before the race.

ETA: Oh yeah and the freight. You don't just bring one car to the race. There are many trucks and trailers and buses for each team.


Cass - Apr 22, 2008 9:31:16 pm PDT #3111 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Weeks at Daytona!

And, generally, at least four days for your average race weekend.

ETA: Oh yeah and the freight. You don't just bring one car to the race. There are many trucks and trailers and buses for each team.
Craziness! At least two cars and parts to make another two for each entry. It's boggling.

Those haulers are really nice though.