If you want me to leave, you can put your hands on my hot, tight little body and make me.

Spike ,'Get It Done'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Apr 17, 2008 6:49:20 am PDT #2342 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant those have become the political issues of interest because they've given up on economic issues rather than that people start going to church or buy guns because of it.

I'm sure that's not what he meant, but it's easy enough to make it sound like that's what he meant, clearly, and that's the problem.

I guess I can go get lunch now.


Emily - Apr 17, 2008 6:49:27 am PDT #2343 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

And, now that I've dragged my lazy... er, fingers off the home keys, I guess, I see that Clinton's site has details of her plan as well. Funny, you wouldn't know it by the coverage, would you? On the other hand, I guess you cover the differences, and they're both saying, "Let's get out!" It'll probably be ACTUALLY covered in the actual election.


msbelle - Apr 17, 2008 6:50:52 am PDT #2344 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Rt. 1 Box 44 and Rt. 1 Box 476 - REPRESENT!


sumi - Apr 17, 2008 6:53:07 am PDT #2345 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Annoying slideshow of the "smartest + dumbest dogs and they do say "dumb" not - - - stupid. But I think that they confused "trainability" with "intelligence."


Gudanov - Apr 17, 2008 6:54:00 am PDT #2346 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I kinda feel like a freak. I grew up in Kansas and have always been a city boy. My parents were city folk. My grandparents were city folk. Pretty much no farm heritage at all.


sarameg - Apr 17, 2008 6:54:11 am PDT #2347 of 10001

Hey, for the longest time, the only address for the family farm in Minnesota was:

Family name
Ward, South Dakota

I think the USPS eventually got around to using a roadname and number.


Daisy Jane - Apr 17, 2008 6:54:29 am PDT #2348 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Happy birthday Sheryl!

Is it just me, or have mornings been especially vicious this week?

OMG! YES!

Yeah, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant those have become the political issues of interest because they've given up on economic issues rather than that people start going to church or buy guns because of it.

I got this message.

Relatedly, that was the dumbest, most frivolous, shitty-assed debate last night. I only watched a half an hour. Seriously, they ask crap like that and then have the gall to advance the meme that Dems don't have a plan?

I nearly threw the radio across the room this morning to hear Mara Eliason (sp?) say, "the candidates spent most of their time rehashing personal attacks"

Lady, no. ABC did that.


amych - Apr 17, 2008 6:57:03 am PDT #2349 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

address for the family farm in Minnesota

I'm especially impressed that the address was in a whole different state.


tommyrot - Apr 17, 2008 6:57:57 am PDT #2350 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I didn't watch the debate, but the liberal blogs have been all over the suckiness of ABC's debate moderation. "A new low in mainstream media news" and stuff like that....


Kathy A - Apr 17, 2008 6:58:34 am PDT #2351 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Getting caught up--a mini-meara is in order!

My mom's boss is on my tv. Huh.

While Mom and I were watching the Philadelphia news last week, one of the many political ads came on. This one was for Obama, and had a bunch of his former IL legislative cohorts endorsing him. A former state senator named Larry Walsh came on, and Mom said, "Wow, I didn't know my cousin was schilling for Obama now." I said, "I didn't know your cousin was a former state senator!!"

Actually, Switzerland was particularly interesting, because they had a system just like ours until 1994, and then voted in a referendum to change it to a mandated-insurance system (IIRC) with no profits for basic services. Of course, it just barely passed--but now it has broad support and even the right-wing types like it.

I saw this Frontline (highly recommend watching it if you missed it--you can see it on the PBS website), and the reporter pointed out that, while Switzerland did have a similar system to ours up to 1994, their insurance companies were mostly nonprofit even before mandated insurance, so they didn't fight it the way ours will if we have a similar vote.

You have independent medical providers competing against each other for your health care dollars providing incentives for both quality of care and reduced costs.

I found this point interesting in the segment. Apparently, even though the providers and insurance companies aren't competing for profits, they are competing for clients/patients anyway, so they continue providing good customer service and benefits to draw more people in.

Also, there are several studies that indicate that as much as 25% of the health-care dollar is spent trying to *not* pay for treatment.

The highest administrative costs of the five countries profiled was, I believe, Switzerland, at 16 percent, compared to the US's 25%.