You always think harder is better. Maybe next time I patrol, I should carry bricks and use a stake made out of butter.

Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 16, 2008 4:58:52 am PDT #2044 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How does someone who can do that grow up -- in prison, no less -- to be someone who can talk rationally and somewhat introspectively about his own and others' crimes?

I guess the classic explanation is that some people are just sociopathic and thus feel no empathy at all for other people.

Hmmm... dunno....


Sparky1 - Apr 16, 2008 5:00:44 am PDT #2045 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Sometimes you just don't see it.

True. But sometimes people don't want to see it because it's hard to deal with on so many levels -- hard to accept the social stigma, hard to deal with the insurance company for treatment, etc., etc. There's definitely a spectrum out there, but I still think that more people could be treated earlier if we could just get over it, and that maybe we'd get better at seeing the clues, even if there are few of them.

eta: By which I don't mean to say that your family should have seen the signs MM, at all. And certainly I wouldn't expect anyone to predict that level of harm done to another person.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 16, 2008 5:00:57 am PDT #2046 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Life is unpredictably, spontaneously evil sometimes, and bad things happen.

This is not a bad thing for people to know from someone first hand.


Emily - Apr 16, 2008 5:02:23 am PDT #2047 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I guess maybe part of what bothers me is the fear that there really isn't any underlying difference -- no mental illness, no deepset evil or sociopathy (is that a word?) -- and that he's just a guy who did something awful and stupid without really realizing what he was doing, and got caught up in it, and just kept going. I don't want to think that, but it's always been a scary possibility.

Okay, enough. Sorry about the depressing, folks. Ten minutes to my next class! Maybe I'll post about the mouse next!


Shir - Apr 16, 2008 5:03:15 am PDT #2048 of 10001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Thanks, Emily. I speak some Arabic - not very well, but it was one of my high school electives.


tommyrot - Apr 16, 2008 5:03:59 am PDT #2049 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's weird - apparently there's been a stigma against mental illness for a long time. I once saw a list of the most stigmatized conditions and how they've changed over the years. For example, cancer was highly stigmatized in the late 1800s - people would keep their cancerous relatives up in the attic or something and never tell anyone what was going on. So the stigma associated with various diseases has come and gone over the years. But mental illness has always been one of the highest, if not highest stigmatized disease.


Sparky1 - Apr 16, 2008 5:05:37 am PDT #2050 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Emily, my DH and cousin both liked the RosettaStone to learn some basic Arabic. My DH hasn't really had a chance to use it, but my cousin has been able to speak enough when she visits her husband's family (who don't speak English) to make herself understood.


DavidS - Apr 16, 2008 5:06:05 am PDT #2051 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

3) Batman

Do you have a preferred incarnation?

Also, you're light on Marvel there. No Spidey love? Dr. Strange? Walt Simonson's Thor? (or Beta Ray Bill?)


shrift - Apr 16, 2008 5:07:03 am PDT #2052 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

shrift, were they filming YOU?

No. Well, they better not have, because I was in my pajamas and had bed hair. They're shooting a commercial on my street today, although I don't know why. I mean, it's not exactly the most picturesque street in Chicago, but whatever.


tommyrot - Apr 16, 2008 5:08:31 am PDT #2053 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Once they shot a commercial on my street (when I was in Wicker Park) but I never saw the commercial on TV. I was so disappointed....