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'Beneath You'


Spike's Bitches 40: Buckle Up, Kids! Daddy's Puttin' the Hammer Down.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 9:00:39 pm PDT #9585 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

They seem to be going with the idea that kids will not eat anything other than "kid food," so go and find slightly healthier versions of it.


Vortex - May 18, 2008 9:01:47 pm PDT #9586 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

oh, yes. There are some people who are naturally thin. In this case, they were people with "normal" bodies who decided to lose weight for this experiment, for five weeks. they did crazy diets and detox centers, etc.


meara - May 18, 2008 9:01:48 pm PDT #9587 of 10001

That sounds really fascinating, Vortex--wish I got BBCA. Did they manage? I mean, I am about a US 12 now, and I've been a US 8 and certainly could've still lost some more weight...but I don't think I could be a 0. My bones are not that small.

My old boss was doing bikram yoga like, six days a week and working out at the gym also, before her wedding, and she was built a lot like me, maybe even a little smaller boned--and even she only got down to a 4 at her very smallest. So I've always figured a 6 would probably be my lowest healthy weight, maybe a 4 if I was pretty anorexic...

[Edit: and doing it in like, five weeks? That's even more crazy. Good lord. I totally know there are people who are just small, that's normal. The other manager in the department was a size two, and somewhat fleshy, not super skinny, just birdboned. It's how she was built. But for a person who's normally an "average" size person...]


Vortex - May 18, 2008 9:04:07 pm PDT #9588 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

One of them (the shorter one) got into the 00 jeans, but they were tight (the announcer made a point of saying that they would fit a 6 year old). The other one lost about the same amount of weight, but because she was taller, her BMI didn't change as much.


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 9:05:58 pm PDT #9589 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

One of Monday's articles is about vending machines in schools. A bunch of them have switched from sodas to the "healthier" options of Nesquik milkshakes and Snapple 100% fruit juices, and while both of those have vitamins, they also both have more calories and sugar than the Coke.


Vortex - May 18, 2008 9:06:02 pm PDT #9590 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It was also really interesting because they talked about the mental challenges, how they both had some emotional instability, and how the dieting affected them physically as well. One of them got a nasty rash that the doctor said was stress related, he told her that if she stopped the diet, he was sure it would go away.

okay, to bed now.


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 9:07:00 pm PDT #9591 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

the announcer made a point of saying that they would fit a 6 year old

That would have to be a pretty big six-year-old. 00 is small, but not that small.


meara - May 18, 2008 9:17:23 pm PDT #9592 of 10001

At JCrew a 00/0 is a 23-24 inch waist. A girl's size 6 is a 22 inch waist.


Jessica - May 19, 2008 1:56:39 am PDT #9593 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If British clothes sizes work the way I think they do, a British 00 is an American -4.


Fay - May 19, 2008 3:55:26 am PDT #9594 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'm fairly sure that a British 00 doesn't actually exist. I was assuming it was American 00 they were referring to (which would be UK Size 4. Which I've also never seen anywhere in my life, but seems much more likely than for the sizes to actually go down to 00).

Most UK High Street shops go down to a size 8 and up to a size 18. To get bigger or smaller sizes you really need to seek out more specialist shops.

This is just an assumption, though. If they DO make UK size 00, that is very fucking scary indeed.

(In Bloke I Fancy News: yep, still fanciable. Still haven't asked him out. You know on South Park, how Kyle [possibly? Or was it the other one?] was in the habit of barfing whenever he got near the girl he fancied? Well, I'm doing a bit better than that, but that whole asking-him-out thing - not so much happening in the immediate, sober future, I fear. I am, however, working very hard on developing better social skills.)

Also, I have now lost 2 1/2 stone (35lb) since January. I am made of awesome!