Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Spike's Bitches 40: Buckle Up, Kids! Daddy's Puttin' the Hammer Down.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Vortex - May 18, 2008 8:55:41 pm PDT #9583 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Speaking of, i'm staying up watching a special on BBCA about two reporters who each tried to get to a size 00. They were UK size 12 (which I think is an 8 or 10). Really interesting and scary.


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 8:57:15 pm PDT #9584 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I know a few people who wear 00. Most of them are fairly active and healthy, and just happen to be built really small. (Well, one of them eats total junk, but the rest are fairly healthy.)


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 9:00:39 pm PDT #9585 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

They seem to be going with the idea that kids will not eat anything other than "kid food," so go and find slightly healthier versions of it.


Vortex - May 18, 2008 9:01:47 pm PDT #9586 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

oh, yes. There are some people who are naturally thin. In this case, they were people with "normal" bodies who decided to lose weight for this experiment, for five weeks. they did crazy diets and detox centers, etc.


meara - May 18, 2008 9:01:48 pm PDT #9587 of 10001

That sounds really fascinating, Vortex--wish I got BBCA. Did they manage? I mean, I am about a US 12 now, and I've been a US 8 and certainly could've still lost some more weight...but I don't think I could be a 0. My bones are not that small.

My old boss was doing bikram yoga like, six days a week and working out at the gym also, before her wedding, and she was built a lot like me, maybe even a little smaller boned--and even she only got down to a 4 at her very smallest. So I've always figured a 6 would probably be my lowest healthy weight, maybe a 4 if I was pretty anorexic...

[Edit: and doing it in like, five weeks? That's even more crazy. Good lord. I totally know there are people who are just small, that's normal. The other manager in the department was a size two, and somewhat fleshy, not super skinny, just birdboned. It's how she was built. But for a person who's normally an "average" size person...]


Vortex - May 18, 2008 9:04:07 pm PDT #9588 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

One of them (the shorter one) got into the 00 jeans, but they were tight (the announcer made a point of saying that they would fit a 6 year old). The other one lost about the same amount of weight, but because she was taller, her BMI didn't change as much.


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 9:05:58 pm PDT #9589 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

One of Monday's articles is about vending machines in schools. A bunch of them have switched from sodas to the "healthier" options of Nesquik milkshakes and Snapple 100% fruit juices, and while both of those have vitamins, they also both have more calories and sugar than the Coke.


Vortex - May 18, 2008 9:06:02 pm PDT #9590 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It was also really interesting because they talked about the mental challenges, how they both had some emotional instability, and how the dieting affected them physically as well. One of them got a nasty rash that the doctor said was stress related, he told her that if she stopped the diet, he was sure it would go away.

okay, to bed now.


Hil R. - May 18, 2008 9:07:00 pm PDT #9591 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

the announcer made a point of saying that they would fit a 6 year old

That would have to be a pretty big six-year-old. 00 is small, but not that small.


meara - May 18, 2008 9:17:23 pm PDT #9592 of 10001

At JCrew a 00/0 is a 23-24 inch waist. A girl's size 6 is a 22 inch waist.