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Spike's Bitches 40: Buckle Up, Kids! Daddy's Puttin' the Hammer Down.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Apr 29, 2008 9:02:46 am PDT #6925 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And since he ISN'T a pedophile he isn't going to accidentally feel them up instead of scrubbing them.

And since he ISN'T a pedophile, he's not going to suddenly become one by giving his kids a bath. That's not how it works. Jesus.

One of the callers complained that a man being alone with his son in the woods would give the man the opportunity to molest his son.

Hmm. That speaks volumes about the caller. In a sad way, but still. Nothing to do with the father and son.


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 9:03:27 am PDT #6926 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I agree that they are perhaps getting too old for their baths to be on national TV, if only because it's not that long until kindergarten and the "Ha ha! You were naked on TV!" taunts. But people on this forum also think that it's absolutely horrible that the parents will accept free clothes and kids' shampoo and whatnot. And that they actually get paid for going to talk to church groups and parents groups about what it's like to raise twins and sextuplets.


Steph L. - Apr 29, 2008 9:04:37 am PDT #6927 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I agree that they are perhaps getting too old for their baths to be on national TV

Heh. I'd say that 1 day old is too old to have a bath broadcast to millions of homes.


Jessica - Apr 29, 2008 9:08:14 am PDT #6928 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

n the TWOP forum for Jon and Kate Plus Eight, people are saying that it's "inappropriate" for the three-year-old girls to be given baths by their father, and that their mother should be doing it.

Am I right in thinking that the cutoff for letting kids into opposite-sex bathrooms and gym/pool changing areas is generally 5 or so? So by this logic, my 3-year old son would be perfectly fine coming with me into the women's locker room at the Y, but once there I wouldn't be allowed to help him into his swimsuit?


WindSparrow - Apr 29, 2008 9:10:15 am PDT #6929 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Do these people think that young children of single fathers should be left unbathed?


Jessica - Apr 29, 2008 9:11:28 am PDT #6930 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Do these people think that young children of single fathers should be left unbathed?

Or adopted children of gay couples? (That is, if these people are on board with the idea of gay adoption in the first place, which may not be the case...)


Susan W. - Apr 29, 2008 9:11:53 am PDT #6931 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I was wondering the same thing, WindSparrow. Or, if they'd think Annabel should go unbathed for an entire week if I go to a writers conference or something.


amych - Apr 29, 2008 9:12:46 am PDT #6932 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Do these people think that young children of single fathers should be left unbathed?

As a onetime child of a single father, I was wondering the same thing. There's as much "moms should do all the childcare" thinking buried in there as there is pedophilia fear.


Jars - Apr 29, 2008 9:15:36 am PDT #6933 of 10001

My colleague was saying to me earlier that her sister in law thinks having a a seven year old and three year old together in the same bath is inappropriate. To which she, being Swedish, said wtf? But I echoed her sentiment strongly.

It did kick off a conversation in the office about naked parents. Some people couldn't remember ever seeing their parents naked. Other people, like me, see them naked every time I'm home, basically, as my family has little shame about running around the house with their bits out.


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 9:17:23 am PDT #6934 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

They seem to be OK with the father giving the boys baths, just not the girls. (This family has two 7-year-old girls, three 3-year-old girls, and three 3-year-old boys. It's the younger bunch of girls that are being discussed. The posters also seem bothered that the father's method of bathing them is to run the bath, put all three little girl (or all three boys) in at once, wash them all, then rinse the soap off and wash their hair with the shower head. Which seems like a perfectly reasonable method to me -- giving six separate baths would take forever. But apprently bathing a bunch of preschool siblings together is violating their privacy.)