I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Wolfram - May 08, 2008 8:09:16 am PDT #616 of 4535
Visilurking

I agree with Vortex. By the third episode you can really get a sense for whether the show's going to be your cup of tea. If they haven't damped down the heavy exposition by the third hour 42 minutes, they probably have issues.

Occasionally, shows will fit in that gray zone where they aren't quite good enough, but I'm not ready to give up on them yet. Those shows will last a few episodes longer before I quit (e.g. Saving Grace), but if I let them linger too long I end up watching regularly albeit with morbid reluctance (e.g. Dirt).


Kristen - May 08, 2008 8:16:57 am PDT #617 of 4535

Kristen, have there been strikes?

There was the one on House. There was the previously mentioned one on L&O, which BTW included a dramatic reenactment of Rene Balcer's real life picket line incident. There was at least one other but I seemed to have blocked it out now.


P.M. Marc - May 08, 2008 8:21:26 am PDT #618 of 4535
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Supernatural had an episode that mentioned the actual writer's strike as part of the framing of the thing. Don't know if that counts, though.

I'll give Dollhouse a shot. Obviously, as I watch Supernatural weekly, I have a fairly high tolerance for skeevy gender issues.


Laga - May 08, 2008 8:24:24 am PDT #619 of 4535
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I could only give The Wire two tries.


Tamara - May 08, 2008 8:30:24 am PDT #620 of 4535
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I am an extreme television viewer. I give almost all new scripted shows (except L&O or CSI like procedurals which I absolutely can't stand) 3 episodes. Shows with writers or actors who have worked on projects I have enjoyed in the past get 5 or 6 episodes before getting deleted from the DVR.


smonster - May 08, 2008 9:20:07 am PDT #621 of 4535
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

indeed. Ultimate Drew didn't join the staff until season 7, which seems hard to believe.

His first episode was "Selfless," which is interesting if you consider (Cloverfield spoiler) the heart-ripping out spiders in the frat house vs. the Ebola insects in the subway tunnels

The "House" strike episode had the strikers carrying signs that had the same color scheme/font as the writers' strike signs.

I'm looking askance at Dollhouse for subject matter and casting race issues, but giving it a shot. See Plei re: SPN, though my love for that show has dwindled to almost nothing.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 08, 2008 9:45:30 am PDT #622 of 4535
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I tend to be a much harder sell. Generally speaking, if the first episode I see of something doesn't grab me, I'm gone. Joss, Tim, and Bryan Fuller get a few extra episodes, though really Drive is the only series by those three that's needed them.


lisah - May 08, 2008 9:47:55 am PDT #623 of 4535
Punishingly Intricate

I could only give The Wire two tries.

Really?! Why? (I've never met someone who has seen the show who hasn't loved it. But, obviously, I'm biased.)


Allyson - May 08, 2008 9:50:52 am PDT #624 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oops, not a craft!


Jesse - May 08, 2008 9:51:28 am PDT #625 of 4535
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The Wire was slow to pull me into it -- it just has such a different rhythm than other shows.