Even if it's from a, "this is a horrible thing that's happening, and I will show you it" point of view, it sounds like NO FUN

Kinda like The Inside, I guess.

I don't know. It's seemed to me that the whole thing hinges on the idea that what's happening is wrong, and that's why we're following along as someone inside wakes up to the what's happening to her, counterpointed by someone on the outside convinced of it and trying to hammer their way in.

Otherwise, what's the point?

Which is all aside from how well it will be addressed.

If it is like the Inside then that is even better. Everything doesn't need to be Pushing Daisies although I do love Pushing Daisies.

I'm pretty sure Ultimate Drew wrote Spiral. Or maybe Steve DeKnight? Not Joss, anyway.

Anyway, I really don't want to get into a discussion of what I think about Joss' feminist credentials, so I think I'd better step away from this thread for a while.

Even if it's from a, "this is a horrible thing that's happening, and I will show you it" point of view, it sounds like NO FUN

Kinda like The Inside, I guess.

Characters who I like can go a long way. Because every. single. character. on The Inside was loathesome and joyless. I don't want to watch an icky situation with icky characters, y'know?

The premise of BTVS (and Angel) wasn't icky. Dollhouse has real ick potential, but it could be done well.

Tamara points out exactly what is lovely about the diversity of humanity! I think the premise of Dollhouse is icky (and I hated The Inside [sorry, Tim]). It just wasn't TV for me, which is fine. There is plenty of TV that I don't feel the love on.

Oddly, I did LOVE Alias, though. Pretty people in fun costumes and wigs and things go boom! It wasn't great TV though.

De Knight, I think.

My Trust in Joss is limited to trusting that there are other people out there who would probably do it worse.

I'm pretty sure Ultimate Drew wrote Spiral. Or maybe Steve DeKnight? Not Joss, anyway.

Actually, I checked IMDB, because I didn't want to get busted for bad information: [link] (unless the "written by" DeKnight credit means that he was the writer and Joss's name just goes on every episode as "writer," which I don't think is true).

Which is all aside from how well it will be addressed.

Well sure, there's also that, and I've no idea how they'll address the ick. I'm certain it will be well-written, because the staff is made of awesome. I'm also wary of how Joss deals with certain Luke and Laura sort of issues and the AR in the BR in SR issues that this would seem to trip itself over.

unless the "written by" DeKnight credit means that he was the writer and Joss's name just goes on every episode as "writer," which I don't think is true

Oddly, that is what it means on IMDB. That's how the do TV shows. Joss's name goes on every episode under "writers" as the "creator."

IMDB lists Joss as "creator" -- which I've always read as "of the series", but I'm definitely prone to missing some of these fine points.

eta: x-post with the far more knowledgeable Kristen.