Willow: That's a work ethic! Buffy, you're developing a work ethic! Buffy: Do they make an ointment for that?

'Beneath You'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Kat - May 07, 2008 8:53:17 am PDT #575 of 4535
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Tamara points out exactly what is lovely about the diversity of humanity! I think the premise of Dollhouse is icky (and I hated The Inside [sorry, Tim]). It just wasn't TV for me, which is fine. There is plenty of TV that I don't feel the love on.

Oddly, I did LOVE Alias, though. Pretty people in fun costumes and wigs and things go boom! It wasn't great TV though.


amych - May 07, 2008 8:54:02 am PDT #576 of 4535
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

De Knight, I think.

My Trust in Joss is limited to trusting that there are other people out there who would probably do it worse.


Steph L. - May 07, 2008 8:54:22 am PDT #577 of 4535
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I'm pretty sure Ultimate Drew wrote Spiral. Or maybe Steve DeKnight? Not Joss, anyway.

Actually, I checked IMDB, because I didn't want to get busted for bad information: [link] (unless the "written by" DeKnight credit means that he was the writer and Joss's name just goes on every episode as "writer," which I don't think is true).


Allyson - May 07, 2008 8:56:59 am PDT #578 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Which is all aside from how well it will be addressed.

Well sure, there's also that, and I've no idea how they'll address the ick. I'm certain it will be well-written, because the staff is made of awesome. I'm also wary of how Joss deals with certain Luke and Laura sort of issues and the AR in the BR in SR issues that this would seem to trip itself over.


Kristen - May 07, 2008 8:57:25 am PDT #579 of 4535

unless the "written by" DeKnight credit means that he was the writer and Joss's name just goes on every episode as "writer," which I don't think is true

Oddly, that is what it means on IMDB. That's how the do TV shows. Joss's name goes on every episode under "writers" as the "creator."


amych - May 07, 2008 8:57:26 am PDT #580 of 4535
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

IMDB lists Joss as "creator" -- which I've always read as "of the series", but I'm definitely prone to missing some of these fine points.

eta: x-post with the far more knowledgeable Kristen.


Allyson - May 07, 2008 8:58:29 am PDT #581 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Anyway, I really don't want to get into a discussion of what I think about Joss' feminist credentials, so I think I'd better step away from this thread for a while.

HA! We'll have a massive agreement discussion in LJ someday.


Kat - May 07, 2008 9:00:54 am PDT #582 of 4535
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Or maybe you'll agree!


Allyson - May 07, 2008 9:04:17 am PDT #583 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

That's what I said!


Kevin - May 07, 2008 9:06:22 am PDT #584 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Joss has oft said in interviews the thing which creeps him out most in TV is the 'reset' factor. You know, at the end of Star Trek you know nobody will remember anything the next episode, likely.

Dollhouse is about the reset factor.

One fear I have - the fact sex is involved in the show. I think the whole point is to show 'This. Is. Wrong.', to some extent, but idea of spending many episodes watching women being treated as holes and men as cocks is personally troublesome.