You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Kristen - Apr 12, 2008 8:49:09 am PDT #455 of 4535

What Tim said about the Wonderfalls episode order in Minearverse 1:

But we're airing the pilot first. And since I haven't been up against airdates, I've had the odd luxury of reverse engineering a few of the epsiodes that we shot later to go earlier -- ON PURPOSE. Who knows what's gonna happen. Maybe it'll be a huge hit. Maybe it'll be a lovely thirteen episode DVD set. I will say that I designed the last six to be a bit of an arc with an ending, viewing the last in the initial order as a season finale of sorts.

Then later:

FutonCritic is wrong, wrong wrong. Jess and Gus are correct. I wrote air-episode two in the production-ten slot. This was the luxury of not being up against air dates. I was able to look at what we had and, with an understanding that only comes with making ten episodes (and actually testing two of them -- a story I will relate after we air epsiode two), I was allowed to create TWO of the later episodes to go earlier.

What you will see as episode two and episode four were shot as 10 and 12. To GO IN THE TWO AND FOUR SLOTS. I promise. I might mention, however, that there is one early episode, an important episode that sets up many things to follow, that the network DID want to push. I wrote a vey specific memo explaining why I felt this was not a great idea. They agreed. Episode five will air where it's supposed to. Fear not, young ones.

And:

One last bit of hopefully useful clarification -- don't ever let production numbers fool you on this show. ep five was shot as ep 2, episode 3 as one. This had to do with cast, location and us just figuring it all out as we went.


aurelia - Apr 12, 2008 9:08:07 am PDT #456 of 4535
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Episode five will air where it's supposed to. Fear not, young ones.

Or, you know, not at all.


Polter-Cow - Apr 12, 2008 9:37:51 am PDT #457 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Wax Lion" and "Pink Flamingos" were stronger episodes IMHO than "Karma Chameleon" and "Wound-Up Penguin," but I liked them better bracketing the latter two.

Yeah, I agree, although I love "Karma Chameleon" a lot, which certainly seemed to be a minority opinion on TWoP. On watching it last night, I guess I could see how Jaye's self-absorption could be a bit grating, but I also related to her a lot in that episode.

Plus, it moves that hilarious phone call with Heidi closer to her actual appearance.

Ha, good point.

What you will see as episode two and episode four were shot as 10 and 12. To GO IN THE TWO AND FOUR SLOTS. I promise.

So Tim thinks "Pink Flamingos" should be episode four too? I agree!

It was funny to show my friend "Wax Lion" because I had suggested Wonderfalls, and she said okay, and I brought it over, and about twenty minutes into the episode, once the wax lion started talking, she said, "So, clearly, I had no idea what this show was about."

(Of course, then she asked me if it was still airing, and I gave her A Look.)


Kristen - Apr 12, 2008 9:52:11 am PDT #458 of 4535

In unrelated news, I recently joined a writers group. We're meeting this weekend so people have been sending in their stuff to be read in advance.

One of the scripts is a Dexter spec. I start reading and there's this one subplot that seems somewhat familiar. I keep reading and now it's really familiar. So I flip to the end and sure enough. This gentleman and I not only wrote eerily similar subplots, the final scene in each of our specs is virtually identical. We both knew the other was writing a Dexter but he'd never read mine and this was the first I'd read of his. It was just some freaky hilarious coincidence.

This came in the same week that Cold Case did an episode that bore some resemblance to my Without a Trace spec.

I think it was the best laugh I've had in weeks.


Polter-Cow - Apr 12, 2008 10:53:36 am PDT #459 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ha, Kristen. That's funny. Great minds, eh?


Stephanie - Apr 12, 2008 11:00:33 am PDT #460 of 4535
Trust my rage

it is weirdto see Tim quoting Gus. I think about that whole thing every once in a while and wonder whatever happened.


Kristen - Apr 12, 2008 11:14:09 am PDT #461 of 4535

Ha, Kristen. That's funny. Great minds, eh?

Exactly.

Or maybe it means I'm completely unoriginal. But I like the funny option better.


Scrappy - Apr 12, 2008 11:26:05 am PDT #462 of 4535
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Me too, Stephanie.


Polter-Cow - Apr 12, 2008 11:34:29 am PDT #463 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Me three. Especially since I still enjoy the TV Tropes wiki.

Or maybe it means I'm completely unoriginal. But I like the funny option better.

Let's go with that one!


Kevin - Apr 12, 2008 11:36:14 am PDT #464 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Kristen, you've reminded me of something which has been rattling around in my head for a while. Are there any TV writers websites which provide, like, useful features? From the point of view of maybe being able to upload specs into a database so industry people can rifle through them, that sort of thing. Finding work, developing skills. I occasionally wonder about starting something along those lines.