Harrow: You didn't have to wound that man. Mal: Yeah, I know, it was just funny.

'Shindig'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2008 10:56:21 pm PDT #440 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I showed the first disc of Wonderfalls to a friend tonight. God, what a great show.

On the DVDs, "Pink Flamingos" is episode 2 instead of episode 4. What's the correct order? It felt weird to watch it in that order. Darrin's leg healed pretty quickly, I guess (but now that I think about it, I don't think he was wearing a cast in "Crime Dog" either).

Also, has anyone heard from Lilty Cash?

Ooh, I just found her on Facebook.


Laga - Apr 11, 2008 11:17:19 pm PDT #441 of 4535
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I've only watched them in DVD order but I have thought they didn't play quite right in the middle.

wait... were only four episodes broadcast?


Stephanie - Apr 12, 2008 1:21:14 am PDT #442 of 4535
Trust my rage

Maybe it's in the Wonderfalls thread, but isn't there an official order per Tim? I'm too lazy to look but I do seem to remember that.


le nubian - Apr 12, 2008 3:14:53 am PDT #443 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

P-C-

As I understand it, the order on the DVDs was the correct order. Fox, in its wisdom aired them out of order. Does this sound familiar?


Kevin - Apr 12, 2008 4:59:57 am PDT #444 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Airing out of order is not actually a bad thing, I'd say. If your show has shit ratings from the first episode, you need every single good episode up on screen.


Invisible Green - Apr 12, 2008 5:09:33 am PDT #445 of 4535

On the DVDs, "Pink Flamingos" is episode 2 instead of episode 4. What's the correct order?

For the DVD release, Todd Holland bumped "Pink Flamingos" up to episode 2 because he wanted an episode he directed to come second. (IMHO, "Karma Chameleon" is the stronger second episode, because it explains why Jaye is the way she is, her relationship with her family, and Aaron actually gets some screen time.)

Also, Bryan Fuller swapped the episodes 6 and 7 (compared to the order in which they were written and produced), because he retrospectively decided that the episodes would go better in this order. (I don't completely agree with that, and now if you're watching in DVD order, you get "Muffin Buffalo," with a clip from "Barrel Bear" in it's "Previously...," before you actually get Barrel Bear.")

Interestingly (or stupidly) FOX would've aired "Barrel Bear" second-to-last, had the show made it that far, because they felt it was a weaker episode (and now I'm actually agreeing with FOX).

ETA: Agreeing with FOX that it was a weaker episode, not that it should've aired second-to-last. That would've been stupid and completely illogical.


le nubian - Apr 12, 2008 5:32:39 am PDT #446 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Well, clearly I completely forgot the order, so sorry about that!

I think airing eps out of order is a pretty big problem - especially for shows that have a strong narrative thread. For sitcoms, it may not be that necessary (depending on the show), but think about if ABC had decided to show some of the strong "Lost" episodes earlier instead of where they reside in the narrative thread.

Fox's moving things around fucked with "Firefly" in a big way.


Kevin - Apr 12, 2008 5:35:27 am PDT #447 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I believe I'm correct in saying Tim was involved in the moving of Firefly episodes around. Unless I'm wrong.

I don't think it made a big problem - the narrative issues were tiny. It was a pretty self contained show, and each episode was clearly written in a way to keep reintroducing the characters.

I do agree for certain shows it would be a disaster - Lost is a great example, as is something like Drive.


le nubian - Apr 12, 2008 5:48:16 am PDT #448 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

the narrative issues were tiny.

I don't agree.


Kevin - Apr 12, 2008 5:49:28 am PDT #449 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, admittedly not airing the pilot first generated a few.