Yeah, sounds like that project needs a time-out.

I have another idea. I'm making a shawl for my grandma. I'm going to do the finishing bits on the gloves for my aunt and send them to her.

The shawl is kind of harder -it's sock yarn on size 7 needles, but it's fairly straight forward. The pattern calls for yarn overs which I've had issues with but there's a variation with Make 1 instead so that's what I'm doing. It's this pattern [link]

That's a great pattern! What color(s) are you thinking?

I guess "yarn over" must mean something different in knitting? 'Cuz I do it all the time in crochet, and I'm not very accomplished...

The yarn over part it's that hard, but then I but knitting into the yarn overs that I've struggled with. With the fingerless gloves ( this is the pattern [link] I really struggled with knitting into the yarn over.

Yarning over in knitting doesn't create a closed knit stitch it's sort of draped over the needle and you have to knit into it. I've had issues with knitting into it wrong or with them sliding off the needle while I was trying to knit.

Making a knit stitch creates a closed loop so when you go to the next row to knit into it's like a regular knit stitch.

Askye, make one changed my life. YO is useful for making lace, but as an increase method it is not optimal, because it creates a hole by its nature

Okay, yeah. Crochet by its nature closes the yarn over almost immediately. I could see where having a big loose spot on the needle would be problematic. Other than that, I think I only understood about 1/3 of what you & Sophia said - did I mention the most complicated thing I've ever knit was a scarf?

I never thought I could knit! And now I'm doing this. The other project I want to start is learn cables, I have some yarn in my yarn stash I'm going to use for the project.

Has anyone done needlepunch? My yarn shop is going to be adding needlepunch and doing a class it kind of looks like fun and looks easier than cross stitch or embroiderery.

The thing that YO does that other increases don't is give you that lacy, open look. So that row with eyelet holes won't have the eyelet holes. I leave it to you to decide whether this is a bug or a feature.

Has anyone done needlepunch? My yarn shop is going to be adding needlepunch and doing a class it kind of looks like fun and looks easier than cross stitch or embroiderery.

I've never tried, but my neighbor showed me hers a million years ago. She was making the poodle applique for a 50's-style circle skirt for her daughter. Looked easy enough - I always just worried I'd get impatient and space out the spaces too much. Hopefully the tool has a way to correct for that.

The yarn store where I bought the yarn for my next project (OMG, never bought 14 skeins at once before - painful!) is doing a weaving class soon. I'm so tempted, but the practicalities of Where The Hell Would I Put A Flippin' Loom In My Tiny Cluttered House? are holding me back.

Needlepunch seems much more self-contained and small-space-friendly. :)

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I kept thinking I had seen something like needle punch on tv so I googled and there was an infomercial for Purr fect Punch on the Amazing Discoveries Infomercial "series" (they did the sweater machine) but the only video I can find is dubbed in German.

I tried 2D needlefelting and didn't really get it. Or maybe it was the teacher, there's a new instructor and I may sign up for one of those classes.