It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Aims - Mar 12, 2008 3:09:30 am PDT #306 of 4535
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I have long known as a student that a hard-won C often means more than an easy A.

t raises hand


SailAweigh - Mar 12, 2008 5:43:44 am PDT #307 of 4535
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I have long known as a student that a hard-won C often means more than an easy A.

This. College was a rude shock to me, that my professors didn't just see how brilliant I was and hand me the A's I was used to and never had to work for before. It didn't take me long to get up to snuff, but it actually ended up making all those A's I got in high school feel like I cheated somehow and that I never actually deserved them.


lisah - Mar 12, 2008 5:46:10 am PDT #308 of 4535
Punishingly Intricate

College was a rude shock to me, that my professors didn't just see how brilliant I was and hand me the A's I was used to and never had to work for before.

College was actually easier for me gradeswise than high school, for the most part. Grad school was the easiest by far. But good grades weren't really the point there.


SailAweigh - Mar 12, 2008 5:50:32 am PDT #309 of 4535
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

But good grades weren't really the point there.

I think that was the problem for me. I started doubting that I'd really learned anything in high school. I knew, even with a B in college, that I had worked for it and had to really learn how to put all the information given to me into a useful context and not rely on sheer memorization of facts.


Tamara - Mar 12, 2008 7:35:02 am PDT #310 of 4535
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

SailAweigh is me. Straight A's without a single bit of homework all through high school. College was quite the shock. Being 17 at the time didn't help either.


Laga - Mar 12, 2008 7:37:53 am PDT #311 of 4535
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

grades? We were being graded? I was hanging out in the student center with the leftists.


Tamara - Mar 12, 2008 7:47:41 am PDT #312 of 4535
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Laga, I was at the University of Oregon. We were all leftists.


P.M. Marc - Mar 12, 2008 8:07:06 am PDT #313 of 4535
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My college didn't have grades. Also, it felt like an intellectual regression from my IB classes for the first year. And with no grades, where the hell was the fun in competing with your friends to see who did better and could in-your-face it?

To this day, I have no idea why everyone thought Evergreen was such a great school for me. I tried explaining that I need a structure to rebel against and lines to skirt outside, but did anyone listen to me? Nooooooooooo.

Eh. At least I don't have loan debt. And I got a husband and eventually, a great kid, out of it.


msbelle - Mar 12, 2008 8:17:07 am PDT #314 of 4535
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

where the hell was the fun in competing with your friends to see who did better and could in-your-face it?

wants to send this to parenting author I just read who proclaims competition EVIL.


le nubian - Mar 12, 2008 8:32:57 am PDT #315 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

PM, I went to a college without grades (not evergreen) and I *loved* it. I absolutely thrived outside the competitive bullshit that had become part and parcel of my high school experience.

Narrative evaluations were a trip.