Buffy had free will, though - Echo does not, at least in theory. Granted, Buff's reaction to the council was never great, but I still think it took years for her to really tell them to stuff it and make clear who had the power/control.
Yeah, but you're an amateur fry cook and I come from a long line of fry cooks that don't live past 25.
Buffy ,'Showtime'
The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
Kevin - Feb 22, 2009 5:29:45 am PST #1975 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2009 5:37:09 am PST #1976 of 4535
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Huh. If someone's had sex with me and then started trying to kill me by chasing me with a bow and arrow, my instinct is to stop the fucker, forget the talking.
I can see that I might try to stand someone down if they'd only been threatening my life but not actually made an attempt on it. But after getting hit by that arrow, dude's first inkling that I had a gun would have been looking down and wondering where his shiny new exit wound came from. Or possibly hearing the report from the shot that missed—no idea if I'd still have decent aim while hopped up on the wacky juice (though my coordination does get better 3 shots of tequila in). But I'd at least have let the first shot do the announcing of gun possession for me.
Kevin - Feb 22, 2009 6:24:31 am PST #1977 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
There's a great bit of research done by David Grossman, an expert on the psychology of killing. During World War II, the US army did a research study on their soldiers - they found only between 15-20% of riflemen would fire on an exposed enemy, for example. That's on a battlefield. People were willing to die, but most of them were not willing to kill.
They fixed it, of course - they now do conditioning processes to debase soldiers, then they rebuild them without the typical societal mores, by rewarding desired behaviours and by dehumanising the enemy. It's now over 95% are willing to fire. However, there's incredible levels of mental troubles in soldiers as a result - in fact, recently more soldiers who had returned from battle committed suicide than died in Iraq and Afghanistan in battle.
tiggy - Feb 22, 2009 6:25:13 am PST #1978 of 4535
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
you crack me up, Cindy. i also enjoy your spicy brains.
Juliebird - Feb 22, 2009 6:52:28 am PST #1979 of 4535
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
My Psych 101 prof put me on the spot one day in front of the whole class and asked me if I would ever hesitate to kill had my unit been called into combat. I told him I'd never thought about it. Felt like an ass for ever having been in the military.
Steph L. - Feb 22, 2009 7:22:03 am PST #1980 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I love Cindy.
That is all.
Kevin - Feb 22, 2009 7:29:21 am PST #1981 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Minor casting thing I shall white out - Check out who's on Tim's epi of Dollhouse: [link] - Yep, the dude who keeps beating up Fillion in Drive.
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2009 7:34:42 am PST #1982 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Speaking of Nathan Fillion (who's not the minor casting thing), I thought the fake ranger sounded oddly like Mal.
Stephanie - Feb 22, 2009 7:53:49 am PST #1983 of 4535
Trust my rage
Me, too, ita.
And me, too, Steph.
beekaytee - Feb 22, 2009 8:24:20 am PST #1984 of 4535
Compassionately intolerant
That guy has the most amazing eyes. He was, dare I asy it, hawt on SCC too.