Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.

Wash ,'Bushwhacked'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Laura - Feb 21, 2009 11:06:30 am PST #1942 of 4535
Our wings are not tired.

You signed a consent to be raped and terrorized on a regular basis, but you won't remember, so it's all cool. Not so much. Two episodes both have involved our victim being raped and at considerable risk of violent death. I'll look and see if she is in for the same treatment next week. If so I won't bother to upset myself. She isn't even like a blow up doll; it is closer to child abuse in my view. And not remotely entertaining.

I'm just disappointed. I'd hoped for so much better.


Kevin - Feb 21, 2009 11:09:21 am PST #1943 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

That was presented as horrific. This is being presented as a fantasy that is enjoyable to the personality. But the personality is just a roofie. They're using Caroline's body as an empty hole to fuck. But since she giggles it's okay. She's a blow up doll.

You are, of course, right. At the same time, that is the show's premise. But it's not like the people involved haven't thought about that. My opinion is still let's-see-how-it's-handled.


Glamcookie - Feb 21, 2009 11:16:57 am PST #1944 of 4535
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

There are several problems that I foresee. The only believable "missions" (for me, anyway) are the "I want the perfect date/sex" ones, and those are just very skeevy. Sorry, still not buying that people would go to the Dollhouse for a hostage negotiator or a body guard (next week's mission). Totally buying that men would go there for sex bots.

As far as I can see, the show is dead without these weekly storylines, but they are the least interesting and most problematic pieces of the show. I want the story of Caroline but I don't see how they can truly go there and keep the premise.

I'm still in but not sure for how much longer.


Dana - Feb 21, 2009 12:42:15 pm PST #1945 of 4535
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

On further thinking, I have more thoughts.

Things I liked about this episode: it was more coherent. I like the ramping up of the arc, especially it explaining where the doctor got her scars from.

I liked seeing the beginning of the relationship between Boyd and Echo. I liked that Boyd was there for Echo when she needed him, but didn't charge in and save her. She saved herself and him. I wish there had been a little less of the whimpering and running, but in the end, she got pissed and she kicked his ass.

I like the actress who plays Adelle, if not the character.

Things I did not like (aside from my continuing problems with the premise): People, when you're confronted with the crazy guy who's been chasing you with a bow and arrow, just fucking SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD. None of this standoff, none of this talking, none of this warning him you have a gun before you shoot him.


SailAweigh - Feb 21, 2009 12:51:59 pm PST #1946 of 4535
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

just fucking SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD. None of this standoff, none of this talking, none of this warning him you have a gun before you shoot him.

I've pretty much quit watching Heroes for that reason. The stupid, it burns. I hope this isn't going to be a continuing trend with this show, too.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 21, 2009 12:57:58 pm PST #1947 of 4535
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Amen. It's not like you have police that will show up any minute and take him safely away even if he does back down.

I also objected to Echo flailing ineffectually and trying to pry her attacker's hands off her throat for like, a minute's worth of gloating before stretching for the deus ex arrow. His eyes were right there in reach, and those blows that glanced off his jaw might have done some real damage if they connected to his Adam's apple. When you're being throttled by someone who wants you dead, it's not the time for being squeamish!


§ ita § - Feb 21, 2009 1:05:40 pm PST #1948 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When you're being throttled by someone who wants you dead, it's not the time for being squeamish!

But people are. That is realistic, if unpragmatic.


Dana - Feb 21, 2009 1:09:41 pm PST #1949 of 4535
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

She could have kicked him in the crotch, too.


§ ita § - Feb 21, 2009 1:20:49 pm PST #1950 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She could have kicked him in the crotch, too.

Very hard (near impossible) to get up momentum for an effective crotch shot from that angle. His hips were above her hips and he was pretty much sitting on her. If she'd thought of it, jam a finger into the bullet hole or even the gouge from the first shot.

Stabbing him in the neck is good too.


Vortex - Feb 21, 2009 2:05:26 pm PST #1951 of 4535
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that very few people would have the wherewithal to just shoot someone if they are not being directly threatened. If someone is threatening me, but I have a chance to try to talk them out of it, I will. Unless he makes an overt move, I don't think I would shoot, otherwise it would feel like I could have done something else than kill him.