It works all the time. Push your best episodes forward.
Like with Firefly?
Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.
'Dirty Girls'
The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2009 8:48:09 am PST #1769 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Kevin - Feb 17, 2009 8:52:34 am PST #1770 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Well, Tim and Joss were instrumental in that happening - Tim spoke about it here back in 2002. I fully support the order they had them in, as it gave them the best possible chance of finding an audience at the time.
Also, science and Dollhouse - [link]
Scrappy - Feb 17, 2009 8:58:13 am PST #1771 of 4535
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
There were clearly male dolls wandering around. Everyone was very very pretty, though. Of course in TV World most folks are much younger and/or prettier than ever makes sense. Except in shows trying to be "real," the eye candy factor is way way off the charts.
Kevin - Feb 17, 2009 9:01:12 am PST #1772 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
You should come watch some British TV Scrappy, it's like we've let every Orc from Lord of the Rings on our screens in comparison.
Steph L. - Feb 17, 2009 9:03:31 am PST #1773 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Well, Tim and Joss were instrumental in that happening
Instrumental in what happening? I thought that Firefly was aired out of order, which they *weren't* happy about.
Kevin - Feb 17, 2009 9:11:40 am PST #1774 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Nope, if you go back in the archives here Tim was posting about it at the time.
Other common Firefly tales:
1) Fans campaigned for a movie. 2) Fans made Serenity happen. 3) DVD sales lead to Serenity happening.
1, 2, 3, reported in just about every big publication. 1, 2, 3, made up. Firefly wasn't even out on DVD when Universal started work on Serenity.
The great thing about history is you can make it up.
victor infante - Feb 17, 2009 9:12:10 am PST #1775 of 4535
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Instrumental in what happening? I thought that Firefly was aired out of order, which they *weren't* happy about.
That was my recollection, too. They said there we bright sides -- for instance, it forced Tim to write "Out of Gas" pretty quickly, which was one of the best episodes and wouldn't have happened if they didn't have a desperate need to make sense of things because the order had been shuffled, but on the whole, all I remember is a lot of grumbling, and audiences being confused because the new order didn't make much sense.
Steph L. - Feb 17, 2009 9:17:52 am PST #1776 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism
if you go back in the archives here
Zero interest in that, thanks. t edit Victor remembering it the way I do doesn't mean it's true, but it's weird that we both remember it that way. (Or we're both smoking some righteous weed. Dude.)
Fans made Serenity happen.
Wonder why Joss thanked the fans for their help in getting Serenity to the screen, then. Sure, he didn't use the verbatim phrase "Fans made Serenity happen," but his impassioned thanks seemed to imply that fans had something to do with it.
Maybe he's just a nice guy and gave fans credit where none was due. Or maybe he was just mindfucking the fans and laughing when the camera was off at fans for being deluded enough to think they had any impact whatsoever on getting the movie made.
victor infante - Feb 17, 2009 9:25:22 am PST #1777 of 4535
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
The great thing about history is you can make it up.
Evidently. I remember clearly the time when it became clear that "Firefly's" days were numbered, and Joss was scrambling, talking to various networks to move it or possibly to make it into a movie. He was posting on Whedonesque almost daily, and even here once in a while. It was at that time that the fan-effort arose to keep the pressure up so one of those outcomes would happen. The movie was where it all landed.
There's still may of the Browncoats people around. I'm sure they can tell you in more detail, but the fan effort was an integral part of how it all went down.
Steph L. - Feb 17, 2009 9:28:42 am PST #1778 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism
the fan effort was an integral part of how it all went down.
Thank you for being my auxilliary memory.