If the apocalypse comes, beep me.

Buffy ,'Selfless'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Jessica - Feb 16, 2009 9:56:45 am PST #1746 of 4535
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

ita, it may be up on Hulu or Fox.com by now.


le nubian - Feb 16, 2009 10:03:17 am PST #1747 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Here is the quote:

"she is nearsighted"...

"I can mess up the neural connections to her eyesight. Make her brain process the information it gets any way I want."


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2009 10:17:05 am PST #1748 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Topher: "I can mess up the neural connections to her eyesight. Mske her brain process the information it gets any way I want. As for example, blurry."

Weaker than I'd thought. I'd buy an imprint fucking with the CNS or altering brain chemistry, but that's not what they said.


Fay - Feb 16, 2009 5:48:52 pm PST #1749 of 4535
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Handwave, handwave, the brain perceives the world as though she were nearsighted, handwave, handwave, midichlorians.

I did not see the show, but I am weeping with laughter.

Fucking midichlorians.


Kalshane - Feb 16, 2009 7:06:00 pm PST #1750 of 4535
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think Amy was an Actives, and then imprinted with being a doc.

The more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm on-board with that theory. She probably got the scars in the field, which probably drastically limited the field work she could do. (If nothing else, it makes her incredibly distinctive and memorable) However, inside the Dollhouse she can still be useful as a medic until her contract is up. (Provided the DH Head Honchos actually let people go after their contract, which is yet to be seen.)

Hey, Toa's The Rock's stunt double and cousin! Mmmm.

Didn't realize he was related to The Rock. Though I can kind of see the resemblance.

Looking at his IMDB history, I guess it shouldn't be surprising to see him in a Jossverse show. He apparently did stunt work on Buffy and Angel.


Fay - Feb 16, 2009 7:51:17 pm PST #1751 of 4535
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Not having seen the episode at this juncture, and basing my response purely on what you folks (and people on LJ) have said - I'm thinking that an awful lot of the concept squick would be ameliorated if the Actives were a diverse bunch. Maybe 50/50 men and women, and a range of ages and attractiveness. (And ethnicities.) I mean, sure, all in peak physical fitness and ready to kick a little ass, but just PEOPLE. Not malleable fembots.

To some extent it sounds like Joss wants to go for what JJ Abrams did with Alias - and I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Sydney's exciting array of wigs and outfits, and getting to watch Garner play a whole array of people (and a whole array of emotions, as Sydney - damn, she killed me in the pilot, when she found her fiance's body, but she could also bring the funny and the competent and the vulnerable and just ACT DAMNED WELL, imho, as well as kicking ass with aplomb). But Sydney had agency and skills and a personality of her own, and motivations, whereas Echo - not so much. Which still has the potential to be an interesting story about identity and awareness and all that - in a Matrixy/Bourne Identity/Truman Show kinda way, but, damn, I think it's going to be a hard sell. And it doesn't sound like Eliza's starting from a position of having fantastic acting chops (much as I enjoyed the hell out of Faith).

I agree with memfault above, who said this concept would have made a great one-off episode for another show.

Still hoping it will work, but not feeling the love at this point.


Vortex - Feb 16, 2009 7:55:30 pm PST #1752 of 4535
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Fay, there do seem to be male actives, as there were some men getting into the sleep pods/taking showers, we haven't seen Echo interact with them.

I'm looking forward to next week's ep, which was the original pilot, wonder if some of our issues will be addressed.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2009 8:09:28 pm PST #1753 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kevin says next week isn't the pilot:

Next week's episode is episode 3, "The Target". It's not the intended pilot - Fox refused to pony up to reshoot certain bits, so it's in the bin. Then it's on to epiosde 5, then episode 2


Vortex - Feb 16, 2009 8:14:32 pm PST #1754 of 4535
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Hmm, I could have sworn that I read it somewhere. Oh, well, i'm perfectly willing to concede.


Laga - Feb 16, 2009 8:42:08 pm PST #1755 of 4535
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think I saw one male Active.