I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Steph L. - Feb 16, 2009 9:34:27 am PST #1740 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But aren't we all mashups? Of our parents, our friends, our experiences?

My mom's -- or anyone's -- personality isn't overlaid on my empty one. I can't say "Because I know P-C, I can therefore be a kickass medical writer and Mikado filker." (I wish.) Knowing someone doesn't make me them.

Yeah, my argument is based on the idea that the Dollhouse brain-tech would actually work, instead of being an effective lobotomy (which is basically is, now that I think about it), so this is sort of a silly argument.


Allyson - Feb 16, 2009 9:36:55 am PST #1741 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Well, there's some of that, and there's also the chemical soup that makes us who we are. For example, erasing my memory would not erase the seratonin imbalance that makes me depressed, which heavily influences my personality, decision making skills, and hair trigger temper. I'd be imprinted with memories, but add to that the mental illness, and you'd still have a mashup.

This would also follow with someone with autism, or schizophrenia.

There seems a weird confusion on the show between expertise granted by a memory program (like Tank loading up the program to operate a helicopter in The Matrix)and physiological issues (like asthma). You can load me with a hundred memories from the brain of an autistic man with prostrate cancer, but it doesn't change teh fact that I'm not autistic and don't have a prostrate, so neither my brain nor my body will experience the world with a cancerous bum or an autistic mind.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2009 9:38:56 am PST #1742 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does anyone have the line the lab tech used to explain the shortsightedness?


Steph L. - Feb 16, 2009 9:39:54 am PST #1743 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Does anyone have the line the lab tech used to explain the shortsightedness?

Handwave, handwave, the brain perceives the world as though she were nearsighted, handwave, handwave, midichlorians.


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2009 9:44:10 am PST #1744 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was kinda wanting to poke holes in the verbatim.


omnis_audis - Feb 16, 2009 9:56:21 am PST #1745 of 4535
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I think Amy was an Actives, and then imprinted with being a doc. It is what popped in my head when I saw a doc with scars. Can you believe it took a moment for me to realize it was Amy?? After all the swooning during Angel!


Jessica - Feb 16, 2009 9:56:45 am PST #1746 of 4535
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

ita, it may be up on Hulu or Fox.com by now.


le nubian - Feb 16, 2009 10:03:17 am PST #1747 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Here is the quote:

"she is nearsighted"...

"I can mess up the neural connections to her eyesight. Make her brain process the information it gets any way I want."


§ ita § - Feb 16, 2009 10:17:05 am PST #1748 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Topher: "I can mess up the neural connections to her eyesight. Mske her brain process the information it gets any way I want. As for example, blurry."

Weaker than I'd thought. I'd buy an imprint fucking with the CNS or altering brain chemistry, but that's not what they said.


Fay - Feb 16, 2009 5:48:52 pm PST #1749 of 4535
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Handwave, handwave, the brain perceives the world as though she were nearsighted, handwave, handwave, midichlorians.

I did not see the show, but I am weeping with laughter.

Fucking midichlorians.