Danger's my birthright.

Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Kathy A - Feb 14, 2009 5:13:09 am PST #1629 of 4535
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The naked guy at the end was sending the picture of Echo to Paul Ballard, the FBI agent played by Tahmoh. Mmmm, Tahmoh! (Thanks for that boxing scene, Joss, because in addition to revealing Paul's character, it also did a good job of revealing his body. Mmmmmm...)

Anyway. Liked the ep well enough to stick around for next week, but I do have some questions about the depths of ED's acting skills--can she do more than blank slate or kick-ass dancer/partier/action girl? The torn-up abuse victim lacked quite a bit due to her lack of skill there, IMO. I just didn't buy it.


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2009 6:00:19 am PST #1630 of 4535
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Steph, I don't think Joss is (or needs to) teach us why trafficking is wrong. At least, I hope not.

I would have agreed with you if not for the heavy-handed anvilly message hammered home.


Consuela - Feb 14, 2009 6:24:37 am PST #1631 of 4535
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The issue I think I'm going to have with this show is that we're being set up to be sympathetic with characters who participate in this ongoing abuse of the Actives. Amy Acker's character, the handler, and maybe even Topher (except he's so totally skeevy and Warren-ish it's hard to find him sympathetic but I don't know that the show intends him to be unsympathetic). It's as if this were Buffy, the demon-rape happened every week, and Giles participated.

So, yeah. Is challenging the premise in the text sufficient? I'm not sure. It's not like there's a shortage of television that exploits women, you know?

I'm also over-sensitized to the presentation of characters of color these days, and the only COC on screen so far are a powerless black subordinate and an Asian hottie. This is not multi-culturalism, Joss.


Kevin - Feb 14, 2009 6:48:43 am PST #1632 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

It did worse in the ratings than FIREFLY, THE INSIDE and DRIVE. And probably WONDERFALLS, I haven't checked yet.

This will be fun.


Polter-Cow - Feb 14, 2009 6:52:02 am PST #1633 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(except he's so totally skeevy and Warren-ish it's hard to find him sympathetic but I don't know that the show intends him to be unsympathetic)

I didn't find him skeevy in this episode. I find his perspective interesting because I get the sense that, while he believes they're helping people and is proud of his work in a scientific sense, he finds it unfortunate that he has to continually strip the Actives of their peopleness, leaving them nothing but shells.

And putting the actual victim IN THE REFRIGERATOR? I laughed and laughed and laughed. "Look how ironic I'm being! Because the victim survived and was in fact rescued by another woman, so my skeevy gender issues are okay!"

Ha! I didn't pick up on that.


Kevin - Feb 14, 2009 6:59:57 am PST #1634 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Polter-Cow, I quite like Topher, so I'm thankful to find somebody who at least finds his perspective interesting. There's a lot 'o hate online.


Polter-Cow - Feb 14, 2009 7:05:01 am PST #1635 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've also seen mostly hate, and I don't really get it. I know the "cutting-edge science in a house full of hot chicks" line is troubling (although I've read it as more of a joke [and I think it was written as one], the reality of the line in the world as depicted is that the "hot chicks" are literally just bodies in that house), but in this episode, he didn't seem particularly leery of the women. He's just doing his job. His job just happens to be icky.


Dana - Feb 14, 2009 7:07:49 am PST #1636 of 4535
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I wasn't too thrilled with "the new moon has made her a virgin again", or whatever that line was. Mindwipe does not equal sexual purity.

But I'm definitely willing to watch another episode and see where it goes.


Kevin - Feb 14, 2009 7:10:55 am PST #1637 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Polter-Cow, the feeling I get is it's the fact he seems to enjoy his job.


Polter-Cow - Feb 14, 2009 7:25:42 am PST #1638 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I wasn't too thrilled with "the new moon has made her a virgin again", or whatever that line was. Mindwipe does not equal sexual purity.

Oh yeah, I didn't like that line either.