Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey!

Xander ,'Lessons'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Feb 11, 2008 5:33:45 am PST #97 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I think retconning must be a more extensive process than we've been shown. They have to have the capacity to replace memories, as well as erase them. When Owen was kicked out of Torchwood, they were going to retcon all of his memories of working for Torchwood, and they obviously would have had to replace them with some kind of cover story.

I just read a story the other day where Ianto spent his time in Torchwood One working for the department in charge of devising the memories they implanted in people who were retconned.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2008 5:35:38 am PST #98 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, it would have to be more complex. At the very least the person in question would have to know what happened yesterday.


sumi - Feb 11, 2008 6:01:09 am PST #99 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

From BSG - will be back on Fridays at 10 pm Eastern - from the Scifi Wire article:

Beginning at 10 on March 28, Battlestar Galactica: Revisited will serve up the essential information on the series' past three seasons, providing the uninitiated with an introduction to the characters, relationships and backstory. Executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick serve as guides and hosts.

Battlestar Galactica: The Phenomenon follows at 10:30 and is a celebrity-studded celebration of the show's effect on pop culture. Interviewees include Seth Green, country music star Brad Paisley and Talk Soup's Joel McHale talking about why Battlestar Galactica is one of the best shows on television.


lisah - Feb 11, 2008 6:04:49 am PST #100 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Is Torchwood ep 4 the one that ran on BBCA this past Saturday. I keep getting confused about which white font I can read.


amych - Feb 11, 2008 6:07:36 am PST #101 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Last Saturday on BBCA was episode 3 -- the BBCA schedule is only about a week and a half behind the UK, so the whitefont-mingling is more promiscuous than I've ever seen it.


lisah - Feb 11, 2008 6:09:39 am PST #102 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

But people have already seen ep 4?


amych - Feb 11, 2008 6:13:44 am PST #103 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Sorry -- I didn't quite manage to complete my thoughts. A bunch of us are getting the UK airing from the internets (or just from being over thataway), but since they're only a week off from each other, the discussion is all confused (unlike past Who/TW seasons where one has aired 6 months earlier or so, and there are two clearly distinct periods of conversation).

That said, I know I've been squeeing all over screen without making it clear which ep I was whitefonting about -- it's marginally better than not whitefonting, but I should be more careful about that.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2008 6:16:00 am PST #104 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I usually put in episode numbers for the whitefont, but the rule is that I'll whitefont ep 4 until this weekend.


Vortex - Feb 11, 2008 6:23:19 am PST #105 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Maybe the pre-viewers could take it to the spoiler thread? It's very confusing to have 5 or 6 people whitefonting everywhere.


Dana - Feb 11, 2008 6:27:27 am PST #106 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

If I go into the spoiler thread, I will be spoiled for lots of other things.