Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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§ ita § - Aug 21, 2009 6:49:23 pm PDT #9489 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Joe Morton did a great job.


Liese S. - Aug 21, 2009 7:19:18 pm PDT #9490 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Stop punishing the interracial couple, people! Dead already! Sheesh.

Joe Morton's a hell of an actor though, indeed.


Theodosia - Aug 22, 2009 12:13:52 am PDT #9491 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I knew Kim 2.0 wasn't going to stick around for long. SIGH. But, yeah, Morton sold it.

I think 'Science As We Know It' hit an all-time low for the show.


Laura - Aug 22, 2009 3:46:04 am PDT #9492 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

sniff I enjoyed the show. There was science?


DCJensen - Aug 22, 2009 4:42:37 am PDT #9493 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Poor windsparrow was most annoyed at the "pure water" bit.

Also the compressible aspect.

She was also saying from the moment of the first drowning, "take a sample of the water!"

Spicy science brain.

Speaking of which, it's nice they aren't dismissing Carter's insights and ideas as much on the show.


Juliebird - Aug 22, 2009 5:17:46 am PDT #9494 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I actually really enjoyed the ep all around for all the character bits. Carter's sadness over realizing that he wasn't naturally connected to Allison, and Allison's deliberate severing.... wonderfully harsh and bittersweet. I love how confused and in denial they both are and are trying to move on and keep up the illusion of "just friends".

Joe Morton had me crying at the end, I will not lie. I just really wish that Tamlyn could have been around for one more episode where she wasn't coming or going.

I'm a little nervous to ask, and I almost don't want to say until more eps are aired, but my question is "Why?". And maybe any answer would be a spoiler for future stories. But, as much as I was overjoyed to see Tamlyn Tomita and Kim 2.0, why bring her back? As wonderful as Joe Morton was in this episode, why put Henry through that?

Yes, I'm afraid that this is a one-off stand-alone exploitative blip. Did they really bring back TT last week so they could have a "cutting the umbilical cord/letting your old flames go (permanently?!)/ending an artificial relationship" this episode?


JenP - Aug 22, 2009 5:18:02 am PDT #9495 of 30001

I enjoyed last night's ep a lot. I actually like Tess. The water scientist seemed weird and creepy; I liked her, too.


Typo Boy - Aug 22, 2009 6:22:39 am PDT #9496 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Belated comment on being human. Does Mitchell really believe the Mom will be able to handle the kid he turned? Or is he just OK with the kid killing her? The "I'm Hungry" line, and the fear that creeps across her face is perfect. So stupidity or badass revenge on Mitchell's part?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2009 6:29:32 am PDT #9497 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I choose to believe that Mitchell was still pissed over her rounding up the torch-bearing mob of villagers on his doorstep, and at least subconsciously did it out of spite as a sort of "let's give you something bigger to worry about than what's in your neighbors' video cabinet" gesture.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2009 6:35:23 am PDT #9498 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, have I completely spaced on what happened to Allison's (and Nathan's, right?) son? Whose name I should be able to remember, but can't.