A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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I will add that COE was awesome. The writing was good, and but there was not one person without amazing acting skills. If there is a new season, don't think it would be that hard to bring the series back, though it would be a very different series. Some emergency brings Jack back. (He will come back if he hears about earth being in danger and knows he can stop it.) New team: Gwen, maybe Rhys dragged along relunctantly, Lois, and maybe casual-murderer girl who allied herself with the team at the end after trying to to kill them through most of the series. (Incidentally is she the same one who recruited Jack to Torchwood in the flashbacks? That would make her either non-human, or human with extra added features.)
I think Jack's daughter would be too over the top. Having her on the team would go beyond extra angst to pure fourth rate melodrama.
What a couple of us were doubting (on very slim evidence) was that Jack was Ianto's first male lover.
Never to watch any more Sarah Jane Adventures because of the bloodthirsty homophobic cheap trickness of it all, it seems.
Was there something in SJA that I missed, or is this a general RTD boycott?
A couple of points:
a) I don't think Ianto had to be killed for Jack to make the decision he did. Jack isn't a Torchwood Spock, he can be emotional and unpredictable. If the point was to get him to sacrifice his grandson (still a choice I don't agree with), then we didn't need Ianto killed for this to happen.
b) I have been feeling wildly uncomfortable about the show's willingness to torture Jack since the last season finale. I thought it was really horrible to bury Jack alive/dead/alive/dead... for centuries. The events in CoE are just more of the same: let's torture Jack through killing those close to him. Too bad his daughter wasn't killed as well because that would have been the trifecta!
Perhaps this is a consequence of my not watching Dr. Who, but setting aside my like for Ianto's character, I am not sure I enjoy watching a character go through constant torment season after season. I watch tv for escape, not to relive the same emotions I have from reading the news.
If the point was to get him to sacrifice his grandson (still a choice I don't agree with), then we didn't need Ianto killed for this to happen.
I think that the point was to get Jack to leave by giving him nothing to stay for, not specifically to sacrifice his grandson.
Despite my personal shunning of George Lucas, I completely reject the idea of fan entitlement. I can't imagine what sort of internal gymnastics are required to craft a justification of such an attitude.
It would be like me saying to Picasso, "Pab, babe, since your paintings are for purchase, and are therefore public, I'm gonna go ahead and suggest...nay demand that you shift that 'blue' thing that you are doing to puce. And I have every right to say this despite never buying one of your pieces because puce has the same number of letters as blue. All righty then, off you go."
Not that I'm comparing classic paintings to tv shows, but you get my drift.
My reaction to RTD and, particularly, CoE at this point is a lot like standing near someone at a party who has been telling so many cracking stories that you've been riveted for hours, but...and maybe it's a bad reaction to the crab dip...suddenly, the storyteller veers into material that isn't overtly offensive, but makes you think you are about to be so skeeved as to taint all the previously fun stories with something you won't want to know. So you creep quietly away, grab the car keys and drive home with the warm memories still glowing in your mind, pretending you didn't hear that last bit.
Yep. That's me and Rusty at this point.
Or is it now official that there will or won't be a next season?
There will be; apparently they announced it at SDCC.
The New Whoniverse is very fond of using actors repeatedly. Often, in a small role, and then in a major role. Whether it's the same person, or in some way made of handwavium seems to depend on the whim of the writers.
Is this the right place for Merlin discussions? I've gotten hooked, in spite of my fondness for the Arthurian myth and the show's problematic relationship thereunto. The actors are so, so pretty.
