That's my sense of it Ailleann.
I'm glad to see Robert Carlyle working, and Lou DP but it does look wildly derivative.
If the apocalypse comes, beep me.
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beekaytee - Jul 24, 2009 2:14:47 pm PDT #9065 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
Typo Boy - Jul 24, 2009 2:43:47 pm PDT #9066 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah made that Torchwood post before I saw episode 4. They are not dead. They are in hell. I assumed dead until I read the spoilers. Don't know why "worse" did not occur to me. I do have one question from the earlier COE eps. How plausible is it that Jack was Ianto's first male lover? I got the impression that he was bisexual before he met Jack but I can't think of any strong canonical evidence.
§ ita § - Jul 24, 2009 3:04:39 pm PDT #9067 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
How plausible is it that Jack was Ianto's first male lover? I got the impression that he was bisexual before he met Jack but I can't think of any strong canonical evidence.
We're only shown him with Lisa beforehand. Nothing to contradict his word.
le nubian - Jul 24, 2009 3:07:32 pm PDT #9068 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 24, 2009 3:12:45 pm PDT #9069 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
We're only shown him with Lisa beforehand. Nothing to contradict his word.
Well, not unless we count the previous RTD series where he appeared as a character with the same name...
Regardless of prior experience, I'm pretty strongly of the opinion that once you've actually fallen in love with someone of the same gender the Good Ship Heterosexuality has sailed and you've missed your boarding call.
§ ita § - Jul 24, 2009 3:25:33 pm PDT #9070 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm pretty strongly of the opinion that once you've actually fallen in love with someone of the same gender the Good Ship Heterosexuality has sailed and you've missed your boarding call.
That doesn't contradict anything Ianto or TB says.
After Elton Facebook recap of Day 4.
le nubian - Jul 24, 2009 3:31:31 pm PDT #9071 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
§ ita § - Jul 24, 2009 3:37:50 pm PDT #9072 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
RTD says he [day 5 spoiler] always sort of knew Jack would kill his grandson but I swear he also said in his first submitted version of the script he did not and he was told to make it so.
Typo Boy - Jul 24, 2009 3:54:51 pm PDT #9073 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I think I know where I got my impression. The "meet cute fighting monsters" scene at the end of season two seemed to show Ianto as very experienced in flirting with guys in a way that can be shrugged off if it does not take. But maybe it is the same technique he used with women, or maybe he's been at the other end of such flirting enough that he knew what to do. So still an impression, but really weak evidence.
On edit: oh and I love when sister has just promised to keep his affair quite, and husband comes up and in a big affectionate booming voice says: "so I hear you've been taking it up the ass". And then gives him a big hug.
Theresa - Jul 24, 2009 3:55:49 pm PDT #9074 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
The next (and last) Torchwood episode airs at the same time as the next Eureka episode, so it wouldn't work.
This move to Friday night is killing me. I was thinking, "Oh wow, poor people have to wait until Tuesday for the end."
No, Austin. Just until tonight. When Eureka also airs.